Electronic rear shock?

[johnsv650]

whats a electronic active rear shock ?

[Robert Taylor]

whats a electronic active rear shock ?

Where have you seen reference to that?

[Ixion]

And Mr Grahameeboy (and a good number of Honda owners) desparately want to know where to buy one.

[pete376403]

If you are referring to the magneto rheological type it uses iron powder as a damping medium and a magnetic coil around the damper tube. By varying the current applied to the coil, the magnetic field strength changes and thus the "viscosity" of the iron powder. Ferrari use the on the 599.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magneto_rheological_damper

this also proves that there is really nothing new under the sun. British auto electrics manufacturer Smiths used magnetically controlled iron powder in an automatic gearbox (Smiths easidrive). it was offered in Hillman Minx vehicles in 1959.
so technically there is not that much between Ferraris and Hillman Minxes :-)

[johnsv650]

cogdyracer........yes that tricky sv guy......said he was after one......

[Robert Taylor]

cogdyracer........yes that tricky sv guy......said he was after one......

Ohlins already have but argue that the market is not quite ready for it yet.

[Coldrider]

The market must be ready for it cause some common ol' Holden HSV use them too in the VE series.

[Robert Taylor]

The market must be ready for it cause some common ol' Holden HSV use them too in the VE series.

Well, if the market was ready for it why is there not an avalanche of manufacturers offering same? I think they may collectively have a better feel for the worldwide market than speculation in forums.

Its not just a matter of making them as of tommorrow, the development, investment and tooling required to do so is considerable, there is also not inconsiderable commercial risk. Many otherwise ''solid'' companies have failed because when it came down to tin tacks the market didnt actually accept the new product.

Ohlins for example produced only 5000 TTX36 in the first model year because there was a commercial risk. Happily it has been very successful and production has now been increased substanially. Also they have been making electronic suspension control units for Ford and Volvo for many years, and have produced in excess of a million. If they thought the motorcycle market was ready for such technology they would have done it by now. And I can tell you for one that Stoners and Rossis bikes have no electronic assist in their suspension units.

Id hate to be making the call on a lot of new products, the reality is a hell of a lot more complex than the man on the street often thinks it is.

[geoffm]

bow wow. I too would like to see computer controlled suspension on bikes. Firmware upgrades over the internet ? Custom programming from your home PC ? Yum. Time for a few circles in my basket and then a lie down. *sigh*. /me thumps tail.

DB

It could bring new meaning to the terms "crash" and "blue screen of death"...
The motorcycle industry is incredibly conservative - there have been lots of good ideas (e.g. Hossack frames and others) that are a step forward, but don't work, because the market won't accept anything new. Notice how similar modern bikes are? Irrespective of the maker, you can almost date them to the model year and month. When the makers do try something new, the liability lawyers and accountants ruin it anyway - Yammie GTS1000 for example.

[homer]

nothing gets released in a hurry
its better to milk things more for longer first .
After all if you had the say " gps connected to a small pc on your bike which is connected to the shocks "
then you should get a mapping of the road or track and the pc would adjust it for every bump on the road or track.

[JimBob]

Suffice to say that such capabilities would ( neccessarily ) be kept firmly out of the hands of those with only enough knowledge to be dangerous!

Thats right. We cant have the great unwashed adjusting their own shocks.
Next thing you know they will be programming their own ECU's.
Whats that you say? they are already doing that?
Why hasnt the gummit made a law against this sort of thing?
Its the internet
No wonder the country is going to hell in a handbasket

[Coldrider]

Cost, cost, Cost, did any honda CR1000RR owners have any choice when Honda fitted an electronic steering dampner, will new ZX 10R purchases have a choice with the new traction control system fitted.
Are all the trades that have to support new electronic items up to speed, is it transposing mechanical aptitude to sparkies.

[Robert Taylor]

Cost, cost, Cost, did any honda CR1000RR owners have any choice when Honda fitted an electronic steering dampner, will new ZX 10R purchases have a choice with the new traction control system fitted.
Are all the trades that have to support new electronic items up to speed, is it transposing mechanical aptitude to sparkies.

Thats exactly right. The CBR1000RR and GSXR1000 ( and more new models besides ) have electronic steering dampers. And guess what is the first thing that gets removed and gets replaced with a well developed ''standard technology'' hydraulic one before they go racing? ( at least at the very sharp end ) Function is way more important than hype.

[Coldrider]

Sooner the better we get self tuning electronic suspension referencing from a giro the better, but levitation motorcycles will be just around the corner then.
Oil, springs and valves for suspension were invented how long ago, never worked properly, always a compromise. Remember one turn of a spring is a solid spacer.

[JimBob]

It could bring new meaning to the terms "crash" and "blue screen of death"...
The motorcycle industry is incredibly conservative - there have been lots of good ideas (e.g. Hossack frames and others) that are a step forward, but don't work, because the market won't accept anything new. Notice how similar modern bikes are? Irrespective of the maker, you can almost date them to the model year and month. When the makers do try something new, the liability lawyers and accountants ruin it anyway - Yammie GTS1000 for example.

What did liability lawyers and accountants have to do with the demise of the GTS1000?
I thought it was canned because of low sales. I suppose an accountant would have pointed out that the bike was an economic albatross but liability lawyers?