Dangerous driving/riding comes in all forms

[Wenier]

And what about those camper vans - do they have engine governers on or something? I dont dont think I've every followed one doing more than 80K
(and I've followed quite a few...)

Youd believe that most of em do, BUT i have followed one from nelson heading for blenheim which was doin 130k (absolutely cannin it, i couldnt believe it was possible guy must of been a nutter) and he only got slowed down when we reached the twisty hill round to perlorus (cant spell).

[marty]

i guess they're on holiday and are just taking their time. maybe the 130k dude was late for ferry/crap/connection?

[Wenier]

1) Learner bike - allowed to travel on a 100kmh road, but can't do more than 70 - minimum recommended speed - 60k...

i think it should b let them go 100k or not go on the motorway at all, as it cause a huge disturbance in traffic on the motorway. i have been drivin on the motorway and seen all the traffic in the left lane come up behind the learner bike slam the brakes and then doin the lane change, which all look pretty unsafe. I dont think we can blame the cagers for flyin up behind a bike and slamin on the brakes like that cause i bet none of them no bout the 70k restriction imposed on the motorcyclist.

[MSTRS:Me]

I've discovered the answer - Wednesday evening in Hawkes Bay - no prats (home in bed ?) Just had to find out if I still like the bike Yep

[Slim]

You'd believe that most of em do, BUT i have followed one from nelson heading for blenheim which was doin 130k (absolutely cannin it, i couldnt believe it was possible guy must of been a nutter) and he only got slowed down when we reached the twisty hill round to perlorus (cant spell).

That was probably my Dad! Last time they were touring the South Island, they got a grunty Merc motorhome & Dad was well impressed. :cool2:

You should check out all the retirees between Te Puke & The Mount - I don't know if they just miss the 100kph sign and think they're still meant to be doing 80kph or what, but there's nothing you can do about it, and the traffic density is so high on that stretch of SH2 that there's no point getting aggravated about it.

I must add that when I'm on the bike on that stretch of road, most of the traffic calmly pulls to the left to let me past.

[MSTRS:Me]

This campervan thing is all very well, but my gripe isn't with those that can't help being slow on the roads, it's with those prats that can & won't move over. I just don't see anything being done about them. My wife has actually *555'd about one doing 60k on the open road only to be told, and I quote, "As long as the speed limit is not being broken, the driver of that car is entitled to drive at whatever speed they like". The 20-car tailback was of no interest to the person at the other end of the phone.

[Devil]

Speaking from the point of view of someone that occasionally drives a campervan (on a Canter truck chassis), yes they are slow (ours will do about 120km/h max, but anything over 90 and the fuel consumption turns to the ridiculous.
I move over for people whereever possible, but sometimes you end up on a road where it may be safe for a car to pull off, but theres no way you'd try it in the truck, no-where near the stability/control on the gravel as a car, its just dangerous. Some people in thier cages do not realise this. Im not stomping off into the scenery if its going to mean a brown trouser moment.

As for people thanking you for moving over? 1 in 10 maybe. Wankers.

[MSTRS:Me]

As for people thanking you for moving over? 1 in 10 maybe. Wankers.

True - try towing a boat on a narrow road, with few wide spots. Show some appreciation? I think not. A little courtesy on both sides would go a long way reduce the frustrations out there

[kerryg]

next time dont let them in, used to love doing this to taxis etc when in the cage as they would make the funniest faces and angry motions when you just followed a few feet behind the car in front and gave them no room to sneak in!

Mostly I just mutter curses under my breath and let them in, especially if they indicate properly and don't actually try to force their way in. Every now and then if I'm having a bad day and some wanker in a Range Rover is being a totally inconsiderate prick I just look straight ahead and keep a speed which matches theirs (so that they can't duck in front of me or behind) ...that tends to make them mad though and can bring on all kinds of aggro and stupid driving and puts me at risk of driving too close to the car in front and/or too fast or erratically or provoking Range Rover guy to do something homicidal so it's really just simpler to let them in however much it cheeses me off.

I bus to work sometimes and the bus drivers in Auckland deserve a medal. The shit they deal with is unbelievable.

[Yokai]

I bus to work sometimes and the bus drivers in Auckland deserve a medal. The shit they deal with is unbelievable.

I agree that the shite that they deal with is HUGE ... but there are those that just have NO FSCKING clue ... The Midtown busses are great, but when I used to get the long bus in along Williamson Ave - those drivers were pricks by the time they got to town.

I think it depends on the route.

[Motoracer]

Our work uses "campervans"... minus the kitchen sink, and we get em up to a decent speed

The American chevy ones with a 5.7l V8 sound horney!

[sAsLEX]

I bus to work sometimes and the bus drivers in Auckland deserve a medal. The shit they deal with is unbelievable.

that they may do, but i never read in the road code that all vehicles must give way to buses and be able to read the mind of the drivers as buses have no need to use their indicators! had a bad day with buses pulling out on me

[sels1]

Our work uses "campervans"... minus the kitchen sink, and we get em up to a decent speed

Rode in the back of one of those once......not caused by a bike thankfully

[inlinefour]

Hi all - as a recent returnee to the wonderful world of 2 wheels, it is great to see so many people out there who are passionate about the subject. I note that there is a lot of discussion about speeding & tickets/demerit points I thought I'd see if there was just as much anger over the dorks out there who insist on doing 70k on the open road. Most people I've talked to locally, including driving instructors, think it's high time that our beloved police should be spending more effort here, which would reduce driver frustration & dodgy overtaking manouvres. After all, I ride a big, fast one & it's soooo tempting............

The law does say if you are going to be a slow poke then allow everyone else to pass. I travelled the AKL motorway over the weekend and I'm sure most were going at about 80km/h, was pretty frustrating as I was on a bigger bike than I'm normally used to

[MSTRS:Me]

The law does say if you are going to be a slow poke then allow everyone else to pass. I travelled the AKL motorway over the weekend and I'm sure most were going at about 80km/h, was pretty frustrating as I was on a bigger bike than I'm normally used to

My point exactly. You have used a positive force & applied it to the blunt end of a pointy metal object