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    Quote Originally Posted by kevfromcoro View Post
    lol Mark..but it would be a bit hard to do...
    Ya reckon...

    LOL yeah they did it in the first fast and the furious movie.

    It was awesomo.

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    Actually it is illegal to carry it down the road in the open if it's not in a case, I believe the charge is intimidation or something, if the public get freaked out then that's chargeable . But carrying it in a gun case with reasonable cause ( to gun shop or to go shooting ) is no problem or even just wrapped in a towel is ok. I agree with whoever said watch out for it falling out the zip, best to sling it zip side up and muzzle down, good to check how strong the sling attachments are too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark247 View Post
    I just called the police and asked and if it is obviously a gun case then it's illegal. what the fuck?!?!?! I asked if there was any way of making it legal...
    Slap a big sticker on it that says "NOT A RIFLE CASE"
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    Stick it in a violin case!
    Cheesy I know, but it don't lok like a gun!

    I haven't been pulled up with my rifle yet, and I used to ride through the middle of Blenheim on my pushy with the rifle in it's case on my back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rottiguy View Post
    Actually it is illegal to carry it down the road in the open if it's not in a case, I believe the charge is intimidation or something, if the public get freaked out then that's chargeable .
    That's incorrect. It is only "strongly recommended" that you cover it up. Provided you do nothing to intimidate anybody you can't be charged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadows View Post
    That's incorrect. It is only "strongly recommended" that you cover it up. Provided you do nothing to intimidate anybody you can't be charged.
    It goes to show how urbanised and terrified of firearms we are becoming. Too much telly !

    Shadows is correct, you are not required to have the firearm in a bag. On the other hand, it's a pretty prudent thing to do!

    Years ago, I just used to sling my rifle over my shoulder and ride where I wanted.

    We even used to wander into the pub for a beer with the rifle on our backs.

    I would be hunting in public areas, and meet Joe Public taking Rover for a walk, and we would just say gidday, did you get anything kinda stuff, just like you would say to a fisherman.

    Now days, I expect if I walked out of the bush into a public car park at the roadside that I would cop some nervous looks. In 20 years time the cops will prolly be called cos there is apparently a mass murderer wander around !

    Anyway - Shadows answered your question - you are entitled to take your made-safe firearm anywhere you want, as long as you are licenced, and have a sufficient lawful purpose.

    Due to the current and growing level of paranoia, a gun bag is a wise idea, it takes the visual threat away, and its also great at protecting your firearm from the elements, and minor knocks etc.

    If you are enjoying using an air rifle, why not sit your licence and get a more powerful rifle. A good .22 is a great start, takes rabbits and possums out much more humanely than an air rifle.

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    Yep it's legal. It might seem a little funny to be doing it though.

    When I was in the states last year one thing I'll never forget is when I decided to go to a range to shoot a few hand guns. I borrowed a .38 from my uncle (hired the others). I tell you it was the weirdest experience to be carrying a gun around in my car all day, then walk down the street with it in my hand when I actually went to the range (it would have been illegal to put in a bag or my pocket, figure that...). Not one person blinked either. Scary really!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark247 View Post
    I just called the police and asked and if it is obviously a gun case then it's illegal. what the fuck?!?!?! I asked if there was any way of making it legal and they said put it in the boot, OH YEA MY BIKE HAS A BOOT SORRY.
    Bollocks.

    I just wrap the action/scope area in a rag to keep the road-crap off it, throw it over my shoulder and ride.

    Never had a problem.

    Some cops knowledge on fire-arm stuff is limited to knowing which end the bullets come out of.
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    Good greif. Another chinese whispers thread.

    Put it in a gunbag and sling it over your shoulder. Mag/bolt out and always carry your licence.

    If you are going to a range or hunting, that is enough reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by sefer View Post
    I tell you it was the weirdest experience to be carrying a gun around in my car all day, then walk down the street with it in my hand when I actually went to the range (it would have been illegal to put in a bag or my pocket, figure that...). Not one person blinked either. Scary really!
    I bet the crime rate in that town was zero.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankMe View Post
    Have carried my rifles slung over my shoulder on my bike for years. Always in a rifle bag and never had a problem. Even got pulled over a couple of times, but they just checked my firearm licence.
    Ditto

    Disable the firearm per the trasport requirements of the law (i.e. no bolt in, ammo in a separate container yada yada), stick it in a gun bag and ride.

    I note it's an air rifle so "disabling" it isn't practical... i.e. just stuff it in the bag and go. I've ridden through central Auckland with a gunbag, and rifle overmy shoulder. If anything it's a safety feature... people tend to notice and get the hell out of my way...!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rottiguy View Post
    Actually it is illegal to carry it down the road in the open if it's not in a case, I believe the charge is intimidation or something, if the public get freaked out then that's chargeable . But carrying it in a gun case with reasonable cause ( to gun shop or to go shooting ) is no problem or even just wrapped in a towel is ok. I agree with whoever said watch out for it falling out the zip, best to sling it zip side up and muzzle down, good to check how strong the sling attachments are too.

    So if you carry the rifle in a case\bag then technically it is a concealed weapon.

    In NZ it is strictly illegal to carry a concealed weapon.

    I regularly carry my firearms on the bike.

    Lever action rifle

    Sawn off shotgun (ie Coach gun with 18" barrel)

    and 2 x .44 mag revolvers

    The pistols are kept in a gunbox, the rifle is kept in a bag slung over my shoulder and the sawn off is bungeed to the rear seat.

    This is all carried along with approx 300 rnds of .44 mag and 100x12 ga shot shells.

    Havent been stopped yet but have had a lot of second looks.
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    Oh ok, was told by a cop once, no doubt trying to bullshit me into not walking down the main road with the 6.5mm over my shoulder, he said something about breach of the peace yada yada if someone got freaked out etc... but they do talk crap sometimes

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadows View Post
    That's incorrect. It is only "strongly recommended" that you cover it up. Provided you do nothing to intimidate anybody you can't be charged.

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    I think it's illegal to carry any gun if you don't have a lawful purpose, concealed doesn't matter as long as you have the appropriate license, carrying a concealed weapon refers to just moving around with one on you or in your vehicle without a good reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Merde View Post
    So if you carry the rifle in a case\bag then technically it is a concealed weapon.

    In NZ it is strictly illegal to carry a concealed weapon.

    I regularly carry my firearms on the bike.

    Lever action rifle

    Sawn off shotgun (ie Coach gun with 18" barrel)

    and 2 x .44 mag revolvers

    The pistols are kept in a gunbox, the rifle is kept in a bag slung over my shoulder and the sawn off is bungeed to the rear seat.

    This is all carried along with approx 300 rnds of .44 mag and 100x12 ga shot shells.

    Havent been stopped yet but have had a lot of second looks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark247 View Post
    I just called the police and asked and if it is obviously a gun case then it's illegal. what the fuck?!?!?! I asked if there was any way of making it legal and they said put it in the boot, OH YEA MY BIKE HAS A BOOT SORRY.
    Looks like the cops don't know their own Arms Code - scary . Sorry, a bit of a long post, but this is quoted from the Arms Code:
    "Before you obtain your first firearm you will
    need to think about where you will keep it and
    how you will carry it home.
    From the moment you leave a dealer’s shop
    you will be carrying your UNLOADED firearm in a
    public place.
    Many people are alarmed at the sight of a
    firearm. Because of this, and because it will
    protect the firearm, you are strongly advised to
    get a padded cover or case in which to carry it.
    This ensures the firearm stays in good
    condition and makes it less obvious. Make sure
    the action is open when around other people."
    You may even need to carry it on
    a bus or train, an aircraft, or inter-island ferry...etc"

    "You should not leave firearms in an unattended
    vehicle. “Unattended” means no-one is in or
    near the vehicle, or able to watch it and make
    sure it’s secure. You must have a particular
    lawful, proper and sufficient purpose to have
    firearms with you, so you should have firearms
    — unloaded — in your vehicle only on the way
    to or from a hunting trip, or shooting range, or
    for some other genuine reason."

    Amongst the "Offences with Firearms" section:
    "Carrying or possessing a firearm without a
    lawful, proper and sufficient purpose."

    See the full code at http://www.police.govt.nz/service/fi.../arms-code.pdf.

    I guess mark247 has fetched his air rifle by now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rottiguy View Post
    I think it's illegal to carry any gun if you don't have a lawful purpose, concealed doesn't matter as long as you have the appropriate license, carrying a concealed weapon refers to just moving around with one on you or in your vehicle without a good reason.
    Good answer, this is exactly my rationale. I only carry when I am going to a shoot, CAS.

    The concealed bit was a bit of a red herring but I wanted to provoke a debate, looks as though I have.
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