'Teaching' the learner

[DingoZ]

Angrily yelling at someone to "FUCK RIGHT OFF" is vicious. Those were your capitals, and I therefore I might safely assume, your shouting. They were surely your words. There is no place for that type of behaviour on any group ride, and I would suggest there is no place for that type of particularly distasteful behaviour anyplace. Nasty.

DB

Capitals to emphasise a point. USed those words to Empasise a point. (as a figure of speech) They would be politley (And if you knew me, would agree I am not nasty in how I speak to others), told that the advice was unwanted and unappreciated....

And you didn't read properly. It would not be done on the ride, but rather at the completion, with no one else in hearing..

[CookMySock]

Sorry.

"No thanks, I just want to ride today (smile)" is enough of a reminder to me when it's my transgression - sometimes it has been. That is usually quite a shock to me if someone says that. If that doesn't work, try the scratched-record approach, progressing to the scratched-record+annoyed look approach. If they don't get that, then try the "look, I'm telling you nicely to fuck off" approach, then FINALLY proceed to the DingoZ "BE REALLY RUDE" approach, but only when absolutely necessary.

It's hard for many ladies to speak up. They feel as if they cannot, or should not, but they must know that they can speak up, and I'll give a mock "telling-off" with pat and a wink if they don't. but sometimes that backfires even.. oh well..

DB