How/where to get started in off-road riding in Auckland?

[chocobo_ff]

ill chime in here now,

i think a KX250F is a great bike, although i would not reccomend it as a 1st bike, if you are looking at kawasaki either the KLX300 or KDX200 would be a better bet, lower maintence, a bit eaiser powerband, if you ave never ridden bikes before i would probebly stear you towrads the KLX300,

Probably want to stay away from two stroke, so the KLX300 looks like the best choice from Kawasaki at the moment

I think I have a lot of the information I need, so next thing would to pay you guys a visit sometime next week to actually see the bikes And yes I emailed you last night

suzuki's, most of what i hear from suzuki owners, past or present are problems, also the amount of dealers doesnt appear to be as many as honda and kawasaki (from what ive seen) and therefore parts availability and service may not be as convenient. as for why not many ppl ride yammys here, i dont know

Would you recommend a CRF250F or CRF250X (yes I know you already recommended the CRF250X )? Looking on the Honda website, the CRF250R is the motocross bike with more power, but doesn't seem to have other obivous difference, and it's even slightly cheaper than the CRF250X...?? flat out at work today, otherwise I could just go to Botany Honda and they seem to have both in stock...

[B0000M]

they are quite sililar, the 250F has im told a different ignition and exaust giving more brutal mx power, it also uses the standard mx size 19' rear wheel and cannot be made road legal.

the 250x has more sedate ignition and exaust and suspension as well as all the lights etc and electric start. also has the trail bike sized 18' rear wheel.

as to why the wheel size is different i have no idea sorry. thats just the way pretty much all bikes are.

as a beginner bike the X would be easier to ride, but still in saying that the F doesnt pack brutal power unless you open it right up. both are quite light bikes and would give you plenty of go for what ever application you want to throw at it, but id suggest again going and riding some bikes if you can

[jimmy 2006]

they are quite sililar, the 250F has im told a different ignition and exaust giving more brutal mx power, it also uses the standard mx size 19' rear wheel and cannot be made road legal.

the 250x has more sedate ignition and exaust and suspension as well as all the lights etc and electric start. also has the trail bike sized 18' rear wheel.

as to why the wheel size is different i have no idea sorry. thats just the way pretty much all bikes are.

as a beginner bike the X would be easier to ride, but still in saying that the F doesnt pack brutal power unless you open it right up. both are quite light bikes and would give you plenty of go for what ever application you want to throw at it, but id suggest again going and riding some bikes if you can

hey mate,

is the crf250x lower maintainance? i never quite got that.
i thought they were the same motor??

[B0000M]

im no crf expert by any means, but i believe internally they are same. which would suggest apart from them probably not being ridden as hard, would probably require similar maintenance. but this goes above my knowledge so i could be completely wrong on this

[jimmy 2006]

i had a ride on one a while ago, really nice.
also had a go on a crf450x. that was fun in the car park! but not on the trails at riverhead........

if you want to complicate things, have a look at the WR250 also.

[chocobo_ff]

*Might* have time to pop down to Honda Botany later today, if not I'll be going on Saturday, so will find out about the two bikes when I go

i had a ride on one a while ago, really nice.
also had a go on a crf450x. that was fun in the car park! but not on the trails at riverhead........

if you want to complicate things, have a look at the WR250 also.

Since you brought this up... don't suppose you want to explain the difference between all the Yamaha bikes? Looking on the Yamaha site, there's WR250R and TTR250 which are listed as trail bikes (I'm assuming the XT250 is dual purpose...?), and there's WR250F and WR250F NA which are listed as enduro... Man I feel stupid now

[jimmy 2006]

ah, no.
just look at the WR250f enduro.
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/pr...e/66/home.aspx

if i was going to give up playing around with MX and just ride in the bush, i would love one of these http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-132207195.htm $$$$$$$ though

[clmintie]

[QUOTE=chocobo_ff;1535318]*Might* have time to pop down to Honda Botany later today, if not I'll be going on Saturday, so will find out about the two bikes when I go

You will enjoy talking to Richard at Botany, straight talking, good guy, be prepared to leave with sore 'grinning' muscles....... I wish Honda hadn't dropped 2 strokes, I had a ball with my CR125m (back in '74) now they have nothing for me..........

[B0000M]

i thought they still made the 125 and only the 250 had been dropped?

[chocobo_ff]

ah, no.
just look at the WR250f enduro.
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/pr...e/66/home.aspx

if i was going to give up playing around with MX and just ride in the bush, i would love one of these http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-132207195.htm $$$$$$$ though

Damn that's quite a bit higher than the Kawasaki, and even the Honda. I'm assuming there are some kind of advantages over KLX300/CRF250X that I don't know about, given the price difference?

[jimmy 2006]

brand.

choose a brand, pick your bike then enjoy.
any one of the stated bikes that you buy you will be stoked with.
we each have our favourite dealers, pick one and go for it!

if you are rolling in money/ want a challenge, get one of these http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-148713392.htm

[chocobo_ff]

brand.

choose a brand, pick your bike then enjoy.
any one of the stated bikes that you buy you will be stoked with.
we each have our favourite dealers, pick one and go for it!

Sweet, think I've only got the fun part left - go and try out bikes and find one that I like Looks like it's down to KLX300 and CRF250X (and I can't seem to get the road legal KLX250S out of my head...)

if you are rolling in money/ want a challenge, get one of these http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-148713392.htm

Hmm.............. going to give that a pass now, decided not to go with the Yamaha cos even that was a bit more than what I wanted to pay, and I think I'm going to stick with something easy to learn for now

[tnarg]

Shit if had the money and could choose between the klx300 or the crf250x Iknow which one I would choose....crf250x hands down. Im a huge kwaka fan but the crf250x is an awesome bike but still not as cool as a kx250f.

[chocobo_ff]

Shit if had the money and could choose between the klx300 or the crf250x Iknow which one I would choose....crf250x hands down. Im a huge kwaka fan but the crf250x is an awesome bike but still not as cool as a kx250f.

To be honest a new CRF250X is a bit out of my price range (I can afford it but I don't know if I want to spend that kind of money on a first off road bike), so I'm looking at second hand CRF250X or new KLX300 at the moment... you would think being a Kawasaki fan, and the KLX300 being about 4k cheaper, it's a no brainer to decide between the two

KX250F does look nice - not sure if I want to hurt myself that badly or not though I do plan to get a better bike in a year or so's time after I've gained some experience though, so that'll probably be what I'll going for next (I can just see the girlfriend yelling at me for spending so much on bikes...)

[jimmy 2006]

the money won't upset the misses nearly as much as the amount of "TIME" you are going to be spending on it. thats the real problem......... !!!!!