Exemption - Learner to ride 650

[TygerTung]

There are 250's avliable which CAN do 100 kph on the open road comfortably, it's just the GN250 isn't one of them!

[scumdog]

Inexperience, bad decisions, kill morepeople, than the size/model of bike ridden.

A bad decision COULD also be the one to buy a 600+cc bike because the noob buyer doesn't want to be seen on a 250 and be thought of as a noob...

[CookMySock]

I am asking everyone to be careful too - for a different reason - Should a noob or two on an exemption on an 'over 250 bike' bin in a bad way it may cause the situation of granting exemptions to be looked at very closely.

Scumdog is right. Last thing we need is the gubmint be forced to make a new rule. I'm telling the exact same thing to my teenagers all the time, so point well taken Scumdog. Thanks.

DB

[CookMySock]

That's, er, not quite how they do it. The 70kph thing is a license condition, so is enforced as such. So you'd get your usual 120kph in a 100kph (20kph over speed limit) ticket, and you'd get a $400 fine (I think that's the figure) for breaking a license condition.

ok thanks dood. I get shit wrong all the time. cheers !


DB

[mark247]

ok thanks dood. I get shit wrong all the time. cheers !


DB

The secret is to not have an L plate on if you are going to do over 70.

When i was on my learners on my fzr400 ( with exemption ) i got pulled up by the cops after midnight because a security guard car had called the cops on me for speeding passed him at an intersection. When i got pulled up the cops asked if i had been speeding and how many cars i had passed on my way home ( which i thought was quite funny for them to ask ) and i told them that i had passed 3 cars on the way home and that i had just been cruising around 100 - 105 all the way home, it was a bloody freezing night so if i was going too fast i would of froozen solid. They said that the security guard thought i was doing over 120 and i told them that old Mr Chubb man was talking crap. The cops just told me to have a good night and to go home haha. They didnt even mention the 70kmh rule, or even in that case the fact i had no L plate.

[Tank]

Reading the list ; I was surprised they took into account the 100kph riding you did considering it is all 'choice' stuff as opposed to essential stuff, it shows the powers-that-be are not inflexible.

Indeed - I have said in many post just how helpful and professional that they were.

Its only a small team (4) I think and she commented how they like to be thought of as a team who can apply logic and help wherever appropriate. Refreshing really.

Re the not wearing a "L" plate - I figured that its best to - if you get pulled over its a $400 fine.

EDIT: AND you can lose the 'right' to your dispensation - thus being sent back to a 250 with a larger bike sitting in the garage. Each ticket you receive whilst being on the dispensation programme is notified to the team and they have to make the decision to allow you to keep it. So why give them cause to think "We helped this guy out - now hes not playing by the rules - lets teach him"

[PrincessBandit]

Ok I got my exemption for my 650 yesterday, so I can ride it on my learners' license.

... Took all of ten days.

Get the forms from any driver licensing agency and just do it. Easy.

DB

Good on ya! My husband is soon to get his exemption transferred to his R (he's currently exempt to ride my 650 on his learners). We had quite a wait though as his paper work "got lost in the system". They reckon though the upgrade to new licence (regarding the exemption) is only a phone call though.

[mark247]

Good on ya! My husband is soon to get his exemption transferred to his R (he's currently exempt to ride my 650 on his learners). We had quite a wait though as his paper work "got lost in the system". They reckon though the upgrade to new licence (regarding the exemption) is only a phone call though.

When i got my first exemption they said i would have to pay the $20 again and reapply for when i get my restricted. When i sold that bike i was still on my learners and this time around they made it so i could ride this bike on my learners until a month after the day i could first get my restricted, then from that day i could ride on my restricted until a month after the gay i could get my full if i had done the course that knocks 6 months off it, so that was nice of them second time around.

[awayatc]

Australia is going for LAMS (learner approved motorcycle scheme.) have a look
http://www.arrivealive.vic.gov.au/node/83
or
http://www.transport.tas.gov.au/__da...otorcycles.pdf

It allows learners to ride a bike with maximum power to weight ratio of 150 kilowatts per tonne combined with a
maximum engine capacity of 660 cubic centimetres (cc).
Our legislators are surely looking over the Tasman.....
Wouldn't be surprised if we just follow suit....

[Tank]

Australia is going for LAMS (learner approved motorcycle scheme.) have a look
http://www.arrivealive.vic.gov.au/node/83
or
http://www.transport.tas.gov.au/__da...otorcycles.pdf

It allows learners to ride a bike with maximum power to weight ratio of 150 kilowatts per tonne combined with a
maximum engine capacity of 660 cubic centimetres (cc).
Our legislators are surely looking over the Tasman.....
Wouldn't be surprised if we just follow suit....

They already have - there are a number of threads about it. No word on implementation date as yet tho'

[awayatc]

since this post is about exemption to ride bikes over 250cc......
Interesting to see that not only is there a whole list of approved bikes up to 660 cc,
There is also a small list of 250 cc bikes not allowed......

http://www.transport.tas.gov.au/pdf/...cheme_LAMS.pdf

(yes the Aprilia RSV 250 is on that list....)

[PrincessBandit]

There are 250's avliable which CAN do 100 kph on the open road comfortably, it's just the GN250 isn't one of them!

I'm sure I'm not the only one who can prove you wrong on that (but then it might depend somewhat on the size and weight of the person in the saddle )

[FJRider]

Scumdog is right. Last thing we need is the gubmint be forced to make a new rule. I'm telling the exact same thing to my teenagers all the time, so point well taken Scumdog. Thanks.

DB

If we can't be trusted to obey the "RULES" in place NOW, how can we expect the rule makers to make them more LIBERAL ???

[CookMySock]

If we can't be trusted to obey the "RULES" in place NOW, how can we expect the rule makers to make them more LIBERAL ???

It isnt about rules, its about natural consequences. None of us have any intent of fully following ANY set of RULES, and never have. Think back over the years.. I did all sorts of crazy shit my parents were never aware of, or my mrs (uh oh) or the gubmint (zips lip) but I'm still in one piece. Who cares ?

The bottom line now is, the gubmint will let us ride our 650 on our learners, if, and as long as, we do not cause major chaos in the process of it. So to start with we are bending the rules. So misbehave for sure, just don't break anything ok ? or we loose the privilege. Fact is, we are not qualified or experienced to be pushing a 650 around on the road and that's why the GDLS is there to begin with.

DB

[FJRider]

It isnt about rules, its about natural consequences. None of us have any intent of fully following ANY set of RULES, and never have. Think back over the years.. I did all sorts of crazy shit my parents were never aware of, or my mrs (uh oh) or the gubmint (zips lip) but I'm still in one piece. Who cares ?

The bottom line now is, the gubmint will let us ride our 650 on our learners, if, and as long as, we do not cause major chaos in the process of it. So to start with we are bending the rules. So misbehave for sure, just don't break anything ok ? or we loose the privilege. Fact is, we are not qualified or experienced to be pushing a 650 around on the road and that's why the GDLS is there to begin with.

DB

Believe it or not, I TOTALLY AGREE, some may not. Depending on how convenient it is for them ... at the time. Temptation is a fickle friend. Have horsepower...will use it... and your day can turn to shit... quicker than you think.