Giving way to right-turning vehicles?

[musicman]

Was just reading the road code online to refresh my memory for licence tests tomorrow (6R & 1L) and came across this

When turning right at an uncontrolled intersection, you must give way to all right-turning vehicles coming from your right.

Just wondering if anyone sticks to this rule? I don't think I've ever come across an intersection like this, I've only ever seen ones where the side street / carpark entrance had the double white Give Way lines, in which case this doesn't apply... right? I'm confused now...

[Magua]

If the red car or bus were at give ways then yes, they would have to give way but as it's an uncontrolled intersection (no give ways) you follow the rule of giving way to your right. Watch out for idiots who don't understand this rule and think that you have to give way to them.

Here's an awesome picture.

[xwhatsit]

Yeah this hardly ever pops up. I cocked up early on (thought the street had give-way lines, not the case) and earned some biddy's dire wrath. I sometimes find myself stopped, giving way, and the idiot not knowing that they have right of way in this situation.

It's uncommon to find it, so nobody knows what to do.

[Sam I Am]

Ok sorry i have to rant now !!! ( yet another one )

ARGGGGGGGGGGGGG stupid fucking give way rules in NZ and DUMB ASS Drivers ( and some riders )

fuck me, there is sod all courteous driving here too many people out for them selves and the rules dont help .. as for giving way to people on minor roads and carparks i am not going to go on or i will be here all night, just wished people used common sence

best of luck with your test and onec you pass... just rember the best rule of thumb

You never have right of way till someone gives it to you ........

[xwhatsit]

ARGGGGGGGGGGGGG stupid fucking give way rules in NZ and DUMB ASS Drivers ( and some riders )

The rules are actually very simple and straightforward. Probably the simplest possible rule set you can have -- just give way to your right. But numbnuts drivers can't necessarily make sense of that.

[rainman]

I don't think I've ever come across an intersection like this

I have one on my daily commute, corner of Geoffrey and Glamorgan in Torbay. It's on a bus route, and near the crest of a hill (traffic coming towards you when you're in the "blue car" position is often hidden by the hill and frequently moving at speed). Bus drivers in the "red car" position mostly act like they don't understand the rule, and wait - but not all of them. Often there are cars right on your tail as there's a long flat straight right behind you, plus there's those diversion island thingies close to the intersection just to piss them off really well. Oh, and you can't see around the corner to see if a car/bus is coming until you're right on it because of a large hedge. So while you're playing chicken with the bus, and watching for cars to shoot up over the hill in front of you, there's likely to be a car overtaking on your left shaking their fist at you.

Fucking moronic rule, should be scrapped, and give ways installed at every intersection to remove all traces of ambiguity.

[musicman]

moronic rule, should be scrapped, and give ways installed at every intersection to remove all traces of ambiguity.

Yeah, it seems a bit confusing that if there is a give way or stop sign there, then the blue car doesn't have to give way, but in exactly the same situation at an uncontrolled intersection instead, the blue car does have to give way.

It's uncommon to find it, so nobody knows what to do.

I guess that's what the road code is for eh? At least the people reading this thread will know what to do if they encounter this kind of intersection in the future!

[Nasty]

I come across this situation almost daily ... and find that I give way and the other person doesn't know the rule ... makes me grumpy cos all I am trying to do is get into my street and home.

[BiK3RChiK]

And if you are the vehicle on the right with 'right-of-way' don't assume the other dumb-nut who is meant to give way 'knows' and comes in you left hand side!

I come across this type of intersection almost daily, and also, with the number of roundabouts in Whakatane, you'd think the general local populace would know the road rules applying to them by now.....Alas! They don't!!

Assumption is the mother of all F*ck-ups!!!

[swbarnett]

The rules are actually very simple and straightforward. Probably the simplest possible rule set you can have -- just give way to your right. But numbnuts drivers can't necessarily make sense of that.

Actually, the rules in Europe are simpler and make a lot more sense. The trouble in NZ is that we drive on the left and give way to the right. This leads to confusion and a lot of exceptions that require road marking (to the point that when there is no road marking people think the same rules apply as if there were. In Europe they drive on the right but still give way to the right. Because they give way to the same side that they drive on there are far fewer exceptions. The ONLY exception in the Swiss road rules is where a small side street enters a major thoroughfare. In this case there are signs telling you that the thoroughfare is a priority road and traffic on it has right of way over all side roads.

In the town that I lived (about 15,000 people) I cannot remember one intersection that wasn't on the one or two main roads that had any road marking at all. The best and most courteous driving I've ever experienced was while living there.

[homer]

its actually quite simple really
just think about it

Its a simple right hand rule , give way to the right , nothing on you right just go . hit something on there drivers side , tough shit there fault

[yungatart]

A lot of the streets around our home are like that. Whether I need to give way or not, I do, because most people don't know what to do.
I'd rather be safe than sorry.

[Rosie]

Just wondering if anyone sticks to this rule? I don't think I've ever come across an intersection like this, I've only ever seen ones where the side street / carpark entrance had the double white Give Way lines, in which case this doesn't apply... right? I'm confused now...

I live in a suburb that is composed almost entirely of intersections like this. No-one is entirely sure what to do, but consensus seems to be that you are supposed to give way to the left hand vehicle
Of course Rotorua is full of people who indicate right, to show that they are going straight ahead through a roundabout, so it may not be a good example of give way rule awareness

[Mom]

An easy way to remember who gives way to whom is if you are going to get hit on your drivers door or r/h side on a bike, you give way.

[Ragingrob]

Haha yeah these are TERRIBLE! On my 6R test I came up to an intersection where I had to turn right, but I wasn't at a give way. Car came along to turn right down my road and I thought "hmmm well I'm in the right and I don't wanna give way because the agent may put a bad mark down, but this fucker aint got a clue so no way", sure enough he just pulls along and without looking at my road for a give way just turns in front of me. Then I head along my merry way.

But......... Who does actually look at the road they're turning into for a give way sign?! It's fuckin' harder to pull out right in front of someone anyway from an uncontrolled intersection then to let them turn! This rule should be abolished.