Fucked off beyond words....a new level of fucked off-ness

[Coyote]

She is a gorgeous bike but at the moment is nothing more than a fucking paper weight. So i'm bikeless *six weeks now* and will be for a while yet, I just want to buy a gn now, something that has two wheels a motor and runs without breaking down.

Hoo boy, absolutely know how you feel right there. My bike has been giving me grief for the last year and has finally broken down. Though at least I think it's fixable, but how long will it last afterwards I can't be sure. I'm very keen on getting a Yamaha Jog. It'll be great having something clean, shiney, new, reliable, a full service history (since I'll be responsible for it!) and most of all, something that can do at least 50k

As soon as I start making money (student doing work experience currently) I'm going to the local Yamaha dealer and getting one. I used to work there, I should get a good deal

[Squiggles]

Rebores arent expensive, replating or resleeving is. Pistons and rings, well depends how common the bike is

[ital916]

The mechanic I take it to is a good guy, he is independant and knows his stuff pretty well. He is ringing red baron on monday to see how much new piston heads will costs with rings. I will try through work tomorrow to also get a costs. He pulled the rear one off just after I left so hopefully will get them rebored next week and by the end of the week the new pistons and rings put in. Jacko, he got the front running but it was a real smoker then the front didn't work again so I took it back and then he went even further in and found the problem. The carbs were completely disassembled cleaned and put back together, both diaphragms are okay and the carbies work. The cylinder is rooted and even if not repaired within 500 miles would probably root itself anyway, a problem that will happen sooner or later so better to be fixed now. Hehe at least ill have the honour of have a 260cc bike haha

[motorbyclist]

Well, just found out why the bike is such a gutless fucking wonder. The front cylinder is 100% rooted. So now both cylinders need a re-bore and new pistons and rings, thank god the bottom ends are fine. The bike has 30000 kilometers on it and the cylinders are rooted, what twat has been abusing my beloved purchase. When bought I was told henderson motorcycles had looked at it and said that it was a carby problem,hahahahaha I wish it was a carby problem

yeah.... what did i say about that place? never seen a bike come back from there that didn't have more problems than when it went in

A rebore is a quick job you can give to any car engine rebuild place and they'll do it in a day.

that's a bloody good idea.... can their equipment do such a small cylinder?

Whoah! Someone shouldnt own a 2 smoker now should they! Calm down, breathe and think rationally. Once you get the poor wee thing sorted you'll be grinning like an idiot once again when its back on the road running sweeeeet!

he finally binned the two smoker, this is a four smoker that acts like a two smoker!

the rings were totally fucked and at some point in time it had busted it's valves indicated by the chunks missing and big gouges.

wait, no blue smoke at all and compression test wasn't too bad

seen the valves?

Hoo boy, absolutely know how you feel right there. My bike has been giving me grief for the last year and has finally broken down.

wait, your NC30 or the pocket rocket?

Rebores arent expensive, replating or resleeving is. Pistons and rings, well depends how common the bike is

ah, that's why i thought it cost so much i was thinking (and described) a re-sleeve not a re-bore

for the rebore, how do they do it? grind? turn? big ol' drill?

[Coyote]

wait, your NC30 or the pocket rocket?

The NC30. Ran out of gas with a full tank. Yet to tear it apart and find out what the problem is. Suspect it's the fuel tap vacuum diaphragm thingamajig.

The minimoto is a fine piece of Chinese engineering

[dangerous]

Fucked off beyond words....a new level of fucked off-ness gutless fucking wonder. rooted, rooted, twat fucking long waiing times, I am fucked off fucking paper weight. I must have a been a fucking dictator or something in my past life.

hmmm.. chill out man, no one will be interested in helping such a angry abusive person, its just a bloody bike... it is reparable.

How about you tell us what it is for a start? (ya profile is weird,THE ANNIHILATOR...junior)
Now when its all sorted and I can bet that it wont beas hard and painfull as you make out... you will have a mint as mint thing, once on the other side it will all make sence.

Some how I think you have a lot to learn about life, as this sorta thing happens to us all... simpily, fix it.

[motorbyclist]

The NC30. Ran out of gas with a full tank. Yet to tear it apart and find out what the problem is. Suspect it's the fuel tap vacuum diaphragm thingamajig.

The minimoto is a fine piece of Chinese engineering

right, for a second there i though you somehow munted the engine - a while ago (and this is the only mechanical issue it's given me so far) was a vacuum hose dropping off a rear carby, causing the single cylinder to die... though i think in the near future i'm to have to have a look at the clutch and valve clearance



the chinese bike being broken is of course implied by it being chinese. only times mine has worked without problems are between it's getting started up until it's turned off. one day i'll figure the mix out and it'll start a second time without needing the plug pulled out, looked at, popped back in without touching it, and fingers crossed she goes otherwise cleaning shit blocking the fuel jet is required, or bolting on the missing engine component that rattled off, or replacing the starter rope (been sweet ever since i nicked one from an old stihl chainsaw)

[Hanne]

At least it is stil la pretty colour Dushy. At least it is nice to look at.
And I'm sure MOTAT would love a donation if you think your relationship with the vehicle is irreconcilable.

[Coyote]

right, for a second there i though you somehow munted the engine - a while ago (and this is the only mechanical issue it's given me so far) was a vacuum hose dropping off a rear carby, causing the single cylinder to die... though i think in the near future i'm to have to have a look at the clutch and valve clearance



the chinese bike being broken is of course implied by it being chinese. only times mine has worked without problems are between it's getting started up until it's turned off. one day i'll figure the mix out and it'll start a second time without needing the plug pulled out, looked at, popped back in without touching it, and fingers crossed she goes otherwise cleaning shit blocking the fuel jet is required, or bolting on the missing engine component that rattled off, or replacing the starter rope (been sweet ever since i nicked one from an old stihl chainsaw)

The vacuum hose has fallen off the tap before. That's how I learnt about them after I ended up getting a lift home on the trailer. That's still there though so it's a problem elsewhere. Got some instructions on how to bypass the tap, hopefully that might solves matters. Or I'll see what's else is wrong whilst I'm at it.

Since I started to run my minimoto on my brother's MX bike fuel it's running a whole lot better. He's running a 30:1 mixing ratio. I'm waiting for the day when I get plug problems, haven't yet for some strange reason.

[Swoop]

yeah.... what did i say about that place? never seen a bike come back from there that didn't have more problems than when it went in

Hmm. I wonder if there is a link between this and The Stranger changing his sig. line?

[The Stranger:Me]

Hmm. I wonder if there is a link between this and The Stranger changing his sig. line?

None at all.

That and I haven't seen anything here to suggest there is a problem with their service. The original post states

"When bought I was told henderson motorcycles had looked at it and said that it was a carby problem"

There is no indication that Henderson Motorcycles even looked at it or that they in fact even said that. Indeed, it would appear that the person whom he bought the bike off may well have been frugal with the truth in respect to the milage and thus may very well have been less than straight up about this also.
It is also entierly possible that they did say there was a carby problem, and it would appear that there was. However what was asked of them, what problem were they asked to resolve?

How anyone can leap to the conclusion that Henderson Motorcycles are at any fault from the information provided is beyond me.

If the owner feels that they are, I would strongly suggest that they take it up with the manager in the first instance.

[The Stranger:Me]

I replaced the front rotors on a GSXR 1000 here a couple of weeks ago.
The bike had done 23,000km - apparently, yet totally rooted a set of front rotors.
Having seen what rotors from one that had done 60,000 hard km looks like, you would think this thing had done 75,000km.
Front wheel bearing seals were missing and the rotors had previously been replaced - I know this because the rotor bolts were loose and had no locktite on them at all, which probably means they had been off at least twice before.
The rotor bolts had been drilled for lock wires so obviously it had been a race bike, however, I have never seen a race bike so poorly maintained, were I a betting man, I would bet it had done the equivalent of 75,000km

Still I am sure he got it at a good price for a bike done 23,000km.

Moral of the storey, if you don't know what you are buying, get it checked by someone who does.

[xwhatsit]

that's a bloody good idea.... can their equipment do such a small cylinder?

Well, it's a twin I suppose, so the bore will be quite small, but I've read about people getting 250 singles done at a car place. Hell of a lot cheaper than taking it to the shop.

Drider -- stay away from motorcycle shops entirely. Does anybody know the Yamaha equivalent of Econohonda or David Silver spares? You want to talk to those sort of people. Bike shop will have horrific mark-up and take months.

And promise me you're not going to have anybody do the labour. This is an easy job -- I'll give you a hand, by the looks of his paperweights Squiggles has done more than a few pistons himself before.



What I would like to see is what the bores look like. Who is this mechanic anyway? There was a workshop manual kicking around somewhere for the SRV right? Check what the bore should be and service limits etc., although it wouldn't just be wear, it'd be a big gouge or something (where'd that come from? The valve damage?).

Not enough info yet. Too much panicking.

[ital916]

hmmm.. chill out man, no one will be interested in helping such a angry abusive person, its just a bloody bike... it is reparable.

How about you tell us what it is for a start? (ya profile is weird,THE ANNIHILATOR...junior)
Now when its all sorted and I can bet that it wont beas hard and painfull as you make out... you will have a mint as mint thing, once on the other side it will all make sence.

Some how I think you have a lot to learn about life, as this sorta thing happens to us all... simpily, fix it.

Haha it alright to vent though, i'm not an angry person, I just recieved lots of bad news today, not all bike related and it is easy enough to say chill out but when your stuck in a long string of bad luck then "chillin out" is easier said than done mate. I'm thankful for all the advice given and don't want to come across as abusive but my start into motorcycling was rocky enough, I was hoping with the two stroke gone that this bike would be the second wind, I love her to bits but did not factor in that I would have to recondition the engine.

[ital916]

At least it is stil la pretty colour Dushy. At least it is nice to look at.
And I'm sure MOTAT would love a donation if you think your relationship with the vehicle is irreconcilable.

Thanks H , yeah she is very pretty and soon will be a pretty working bike lol