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    New licencing may hurt!

    Ok I could be well wrong here so please correct me if I am wrong..

    The law that is proposed is that on a learners licence you cannot ride a bike with a power to weight ratio not exceeding 150kw to the tonne. (150 : 1000)

    Now I have done some calcs and this is where I could be wrong but a 2001 Kawasaki KLR250 is producing 249kw to the tonne... This bike will not be learner compatible.

    The way I worked it out is, the weight of the KLR is 118kg. So 1000kg divided by 118 is 8.5.

    The power output is 40hp which is = to 29.4kw.

    So, 8.5 x 29.4kw = 249.9. Thus giving a power to weight ratio of 249.9 : 1000

    So there you have it, the poxy KLR250 will no longer suit a learner rider as they have too much poke.....

    Am I correct?

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    No. Add 80kg rider like they do in NSW.

    Then do your calculations.

    Then do a Google search for LAMS, look at the list, and then report back when bits of the sky really do hit you in the head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    No. Add 80kg rider like they do in NSW.

    Then do your calculations.

    Then do a Google search for LAMS, look at the list, and then report back when bits of the sky really do hit you in the head.
    OH SHIT!!!!!!!!!

    So there is an approved list already... Damn, it lol.....well thanks for that, my research was a waste of time then lol

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    yep the list is on here smwhee read it the other day ,, or google the frucka !
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    Quote Originally Posted by manwithav8 View Post
    Kawasaki KLR250
    All 250cc bikes (barring the 250cc two-stroke super-sports) are automatically okay for learners.


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    It's the "Arse may fall out of 250 market" thread you want..
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    Two things.
    1) I wonder why they didn't just construct the formula to reflect only the weight of the bike and exclude the rider. There would be a different target figure but surely that would be a bit easier.

    2) I wonder then if there will be a market for lightening those bikes just under the threshold. I mean, get a fat ass 500 or something that is legal in the hands of a learner but then exchange bit to make it lighter and therefore raise the weight to HP ratio.
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    Or .... if you eat enough pies, you might be able to ride a 900

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    Quote Originally Posted by manwithav8 View Post
    Ok I could be well wrong here so please correct me if I am wrong..

    The power output is 40hp which is = to 29.4kw.

    Am I correct?
    not a chance that a klr250 has 40hp. They are around 20kw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trouser View Post
    not a chance that a klr250 has 40hp. They are around 20kw.
    Pretty sure the manual doesn't lie....

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    Quote Originally Posted by manwithav8 View Post
    Pretty sure the manual doesn't lie....

    Engine:

    * Type: Four-stroke, DOHC, four-valve, single cylinder,
    * Displacement: 249 cc
    * Bore and Stroke: 74.0 x 58.0 mm
    * Carburetor: Keihin CVK34
    * Compression ratio: 11.0:1
    * Output: 28 horsepower 1986–1989, 22 horsepower 1990–2005
    * Starting Method: Kick

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    Quote Originally Posted by manwithav8 View Post
    Pretty sure the manual doesn't lie....


    Maybe if you bolted on a turbo & fed it methanol & nitrous, in the 10 seconds before it lunched itself it might make 40hp. A brand new KLR650 only makes about that.

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    Ive got a klr250 and I've always read 30hp, its 22kw not hp and if you work that out its 30hp.

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    KLR250 will be learner legal as it is a 250 4 stroke and therefore automatically OK

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    i still believe that they are going the wrong way about it. I think that they are giving learners too much rights. You are only on your learners for 6 months. Why not DECREASE the horsepower learners can have.
    I used to be young dumb and full of.....bullshit.
    If it wasn't for my dad only allowing me on a crap Kawa 100, then a TS185 and then an RG150 - i would probably be dead.
    besides i have ridden plenty of bikes out there with low hp, but easily enough torque to kill you mid corner.
    Oh well, if Darwin's theory still works, the big cc squids will die just as easy as their 250cc cousins.
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