What would you do?

[MaxB]

And the bill of rights - if it's the policy to not allow 'business transactions' to occur on site, then fair enough. But what reason would you give the hooker for refusing a room ?

I wouldn't refuse her a room, her money is as good as anyone elses. But if she acted up or there was trouble from the punters then I would give her the boot.

[MIXONE]

I wouldn't refuse her a room, her money is as good as anyone elses. But if she acted up or there was trouble from the punters then I would give her the boot.

What he said.This thread is useless without pictures.

[Boob Johnson]

Isn't it ? You're taking the moral high ground.

There are three brothels in Lower Hutt - two in the CBD and one in an industrial area.

The CBD is hardly 'discrete'.

Homosexuality is legal now too - would you object to two 'guys' renting a room for the night ? Now that gives new meaning to a 'backpackers' doesn't it, LOL

No moral high ground at all Deano. But ill happily give you hand off that horse? The CBD is discrete actually & its where a lot of "partying" goes on so it fits in. The builder who does all our work is gay, bloody top bloke, have had heaps of guests that are (quite obviously gay) no drama at all, I think you are totally missing the boat mate, gay guests & pro's are two very different things. I have no problem with hookers in general. As I said previously to which you ignored.........you haven't ever run an accommodation business before have you?

(Gay couples) it does give new meaning to backpackers lol.

I guess you have to weigh up the effect on your business versus customer privacy.

If she keeps it discreet then no worries.

But if you get heaps of punters queuing outside her door will it put other people off spending their $$$ in your business?

What would I do? I guess I'd be upset that someone is running a business from my premises. I would see how tonight goes and heave her out if it gets to be a problem. If it goes well eg no disturbance to others I would find a way to make my business benefit (within the law).

My bet is that sooner or later it will turn to crap if she keeps operating out of your place.

Yeah that's pretty much it nail on the head there Max

As mentioned I don't have many guests here so it's a little easier to manage. Have had some shockers in before, ignoring the no smoking policy, trash the room, drunk & arguing (keeping other guests & me awake), drugs & all its associated problems, the list goes on, they really can be a handful!! And not worth the hassle.

And yeah that's the thing that people like Deano don't understand she is making money out of my business, that was never an arrangement we agreed on.

Update: while I was writing this she has decided to leave. He he, smashing news, all turned out for the better. Only had one "client" in too, she even tied up the room, made the bed (why I don't know as it needs to be changed obviously lol) & even emptied her rubbish bin & took it with her lol.

[Deano]

Nor does the refusal have to be explained to the person being refused either.

If you want to complain to the manager or the owner of said business, then go for it, as is your right, but they still don't have to supply you with a reason....

I think you will be on dodgy ground if a complaint is made and you have to explain your reasoning to the authorities.

Boob, I think the backpackers could be prosecuted if she is found to be using the premises as a place to... um... do her kind of business, and if the backpackers knows about it.
"brothels that want to operate legally must apply for licenses or planning permission through local authority planning procedures"

Cover your arse.

Steam is onto it. Refusal for any other reason would be dodgy IMO.

[Deano]

you haven't ever run an accommodation business before have you?
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My point is that you want to be careful not to be done for discrimination.

I think Steam has pointed out the appropriate legal ramifications.

[Maha]

If you were running a backpackers lodge & a prostitute booked in? (without telling you what she is up to)
What to do? Kick her out?

Hell no dont kick her out, if there is enough time....set up a hidden camera.

[Boob Johnson]

You are married huh? Tell me again how you are not paying for it.......... one way or another.....................

lol na im not married

And the bill of rights - if it's the policy to not allow 'business transactions' to occur on site, then fair enough. But what reason would you give the hooker for refusing a room ?

Exactly that if I so wished (no business conducted on site), otherwise it's the stock answer.....sorry we are full!

Boob, I think the backpackers could be prosecuted if she is found to be using the premises as a place to... um... do her kind of business, and if the backpackers knows about it.
"brothels that want to operate legally must apply for licenses or planning permission through local authority planning procedures"


Cover your arse.

All good ma man, she is gone & she never told me what she was up to, I figured it out myself.

Cowboyz you are correct.

For a business owner to refuse you entry into or onto the business premises there does not have to be a reason. Nor does the refusal have to be explained to the person being refused either.

Case in point " pubs or clubs on a friday or saturday night " If the people on the door don't like the look of you for what ever reason, and they refuse you entry, then there is nothing you can do about it, If you want to complain to the manager or the owner of said business, then go for it, as is your right, but they still don't have to supply you with a reason....

Exactly

What room number is she in mate???? I need her advice on something......

she ain't flash enough for a drive this far south

[AllanB]

Maybe a one -off (so to speak) incident. Also maybe her 'lover' cheating on his wife (or boyfriend in today's age) using your room as a meeting point (so to speak).
If she returns with a different chap then your suspicions are probably correct - unless of course this second guy is the gay lover of the first fat chap and he is cheating on him with the woman the gay fat guy is cheating on the second man with.....

Anyway - if I stopped to stay there with my family and found there was a knocking shop operating in the room next to me I'd be having a word with management pretty quickly.

[Deano]

Exactly
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My understanding is that a reason for refusal should be given - if they lodge a complaint then you will need to explain to the authorities - silence is basically an admission of guilt.

I take a bit of exception to your comment about "people like Deano" - you don't know me, and at the end of the day, my advice was only intended to help, not hinder.

But, whatever. This is KB.

[The Stranger:Me]

No moral high ground at all Deano. But ill happily give you hand off that horse? The CBD is discrete actually & its where a lot of "partying" goes on so it fits in. The builder who does all our work is gay, bloody top bloke, have had heaps of guests that are (quite obviously gay) no drama at all, I think you are totally missing the boat mate, gay guests & pro's are two very different things. I have no problem with hookers in general. As I said previously to which you ignored.........you haven't ever run an accommodation business before have you?

What horse?
Deano isn't on any horse. He's simply putting his opinion.
You keep pointing out (from your horse may I add) that he has never run an accomodation business before. Well neither have I, so it would be good to have an appreciation of the issues you face under such circumstances.

[DingoZ]

I think you will be on dodgy ground if a complaint is made and you have to explain your reasoning to the authorities.

No not on dodgy ground in the least. I owned a pub a few years back and this was covered in the licensing exam. Same reasoning applies, for other business's.... And we have to explain this same thing to numerous callers to police on a drunken friday or saturday night as well. "He won't let me in", the strip club has booted me out, or won't let me in, and they not telling me why"....They all get told the same thing...

My understanding is that a reason for refusal should be given -

Is always nice when it happens, but rarely. I had to on a few occasions, let people know they were not welcome on the pub grounds. With the exception of one I always gave a reason. Didn't have to, but thought it would be the appropriate thing to do....

[Boob Johnson]

My point is that you want to be careful not to be done for discrimination.

I think Steam has pointed out the appropriate legal ramifications.

Which are in correct

Maybe a one -off (so to speak) incident. Also maybe her 'lover' cheating on his wife (or boyfriend in today's age) using your room as a meeting point (so to speak).
If she returns with a different chap then your suspicions are probably correct - unless of course this second guy is the gay lover of the first fat chap and he is cheating on him with the woman the gay fat guy is cheating on the second man with.....

Anyway - if I stopped to stay there with my family and found there was a knocking shop operating in the room next to me I'd be having a word with management pretty quickly.

Im all out of bling today sorry

Yeah that's the issue that bleeding hearts people don't seem to understand, im happy to take her money im just not happy refunding the 5 other guests (who will never return & will speak poorly of your business) then there is the other 5 who won't say a thing, leave the next day never to return & again speak poorly to others of the business. Is the hookers money worth it now you ask?

I take a bit of exception to your comment about "people like Deano" - you don't know me, and at the end of the day, my advice was only intended to help, not hinder.

But, whatever. This is KB.

I take exception to your comment about me having a prejudice against gays. Im yet to see anything helpful from any of your "advice" here sorry Deano. And no Deano I don't know you which has a flip side, you don't know me either. What I do know about you is that you haven't fully understood the original question or fully thought through your answer hence "people like Deano", not meant as a put down as such just a label.

[peasea]

[QUOTE=Boob Johnson;1566347]The builder who does all our work is gay, bloody top bloke
QUOTE]

He goes on top?

[tri boy]

If she is a Tom, and you allow her trade to operate under your premises comfortably. What stops her telling the other Toms that your hostel is a push over for cheap banging space?
Politely tell her that it might pay to not call again, and that you can't allow such activities to carry on.
One visit could grow into dozens, and less than polite conversations, (P fueled slagging matches at reception).
Nip it in the bud mate.

[fridayflash]

Why ?

It's a legal activity isn't it ?

Would you consider these options if two business people wanted to hold a meeting in a room?

Live and let live - hookers are people too.

too true mate,although youd need to change name of the hostel if it became a more regular occurance lol