No small torque.

[Edbear]

My own eyes.

And there is this You tube clip

Das' cool! Looks like the rider couldn't lift his foot back onto the peg due to the G-force!

[Mikkel]

HP claims win wanking competitions, torque wins races.

FACT.

Bullshit - otherwise you'd see turbo-diesel engines dominate the racing scene... Not only are they more torquey - they are more fuel efficient as well.

Balls and skills are what wins motorsport races - if those two are about equal between competitors, such as is the case for international professional, then the vehicle becomes important.


And I wouldn't be surprised to see a Rocket III beating most things on a 1/8 mile. The weight distribution and broad torque curve would allow you to get a lot of power down early - and that counts heaps in the drags.

[Big Dave]

Das' cool! Looks like the rider couldn't lift his foot back onto the peg due to the G-force!

Can't multi-task.

[Badjelly]

My objection to torque figures, in isolation, is that they take no account of the rev range over which the engine works, and hence the gearing required. To go back to the beginning of this thread, so a Rocket III starter motor has more torque than a Harley 883 engine, which do you think would give better on-road performance in your bike?

The Rocket engine it's attached to.

I rest my case, Your Honour.

[Big Dave]

Bullshit - otherwise you'd see turbo-diesel engines dominate the racing scene...

A V-rod is the US 1/4 mile champion. That is racing. Could be more people watch it than Moto GP too.

[Big Dave]

I rest my case, Your Honour.

Which was the point in the first place. If the starter has got that much....

[Badjelly]

Which was the point in the first place. If the starter has got that much....

All starters have got (almost) that much... They're high torque devices, but very low revs hence not very much power. So if you used them to drive a vehicle you'd need very high gearing, and all that lovely torque wouldn't actually give very much thrust at the back wheel. Just like a diesel car engine: big torque figures but not all that much go (Not like a Rocket III, I'm not denying they have heaps of usable power.)

[Big Dave]

All starters have got (almost) that much... T

I almost rest my case.

[imdying]

The fishing is good Dave

I do wonder if perhaps the 1/8th mile time of the Rocket vs the Busa is more to do with the chassis though. That's a whole lotta motor convincing the front wheel to stay near the ground on the Rocket.

Me, I like the hard luggage on the new Tourer... but I love the crazy styling of the Rune, that'd be the one I'd want to try first

[Mikkel]

A V-rod is the US 1/4 mile champion. That is racing. Could be more people watch it than Moto GP too.

I dare assume that said V-rod is slightly modified - and that the introduction of a diesel engine is not one of these modifications...

I don't doubt that the drags have a lot of following, not at all. I'm certainly not saying that the drags aren't racing. Neither would I say that Nascar isn't racing. Mindnumbingly dull to watch maybe, but definitely still racing.

250 million Americans can't be wrong!

[Big Dave]

The fishing is good Dave

I do wonder if perhaps the 1/8th mile time of the Rocket vs the Busa is more to do with the chassis though. That's a whole lotta motor convincing the front wheel to stay near the ground on the Rocket.

Me, I like the hard luggage on the new Tourer... but I love the crazy styling of the Rune, that'd be the one I'd want to try first

I love a spar on a monday morning.

Torque baby, torque.

[imdying]

I dare assume that said V-rod is slightly modified - and that the introduction of a diesel engine is not on of these modifications...

Heh, you should google it... the modifications to that VRod, are not trival

[Mikkel]

Heh, you should google it... the modifications to that VRod, are not trival

I actually did try - but I was a bit lost for what search terms to throw at the old sniffer...

[imdying]

Well duh!!

[Mikkel]

Funny how that is - 'v-rod dragbike champion' certainly wasn't any help.