To bin or not to bin?

[MIXONE]

I agree with D but can any rider on kb who has ridden regularly for X number of years honestly say that they have never had an off?

[yod]

No, bin is not assured, im living proof. And the first incident was after 5 years, and i got hit by a guy -his fault. *rock on*

its still a bin tho....innit

which is the point really, you can be as careful as a nana but you can't account for every other idiot on the road

[toebug]

I don't believe that you can definitely avoid ever having an accident however there are MANY steps to greatly lessen the chances of it happening.

So says he who has binned a few!!

[wickle]

Perhaps instead of cc rating for learner licences , it should be matched to horse power rating or horse power to brain power for some.

[fridayflash]

i think its not an inevitable fate,thatd drastically deter learners.ive been riding on road since 1988 and not come off once.i do ride carefully but not reservedly,i do know however that my first fall could be anytime anywhere lol
p.s i think 20yrs of falling off dirtbikes makes me not wana hit the tarseal!!! lol

[DMNTD:Me]

So says he who has binned a few!!

...exactly.

1st time was 8 years ago now. My inexperience contributed to me high siding after failing to read some diesel on a wet road. (raining)

2nd time was February last year when my rear locked up under braking after failing to read a greasy road surface. May also have been a partial mechanical failure. (cold damp morning)

3rd time was last year in July when my rear tyre hit some diesel that I failed to read however it took someone else a while to work out what the hell it was that I hit as it was a beautiful sunny day and extremely hard to see even when standing over it therefore making it damn near impossible to read whilst riding.

Out of the 3 bins I've had I know that at least one was definitely avoidable...a second,maybe...but the third was what I deem as virtually unavoidable.

Considering my past road riding habits(over 20 years) I do feel fortunate to be alive/semi in one piece and have learnt to never trust road conditions however good they appear to be in saying that I also know I'm not a freaking angel either.
I must also add that during each of these accidents I wasn't speeding.

[Mikkel]

I must also add that during each of these accidents I wasn't speeding.

Of course, otherwise you wouldn't have been here today.

This is of course a pisstake...

[MIXONE]

i think its not an inevitable fate,thatd drastically deter learners.ive been riding on road since 1988 and not come off once.i do ride carefully but not reservedly,i do know however that my first fall could be anytime anywhere lol
p.s i think 20yrs of falling off dirtbikes makes me not wana hit the tarseal!!! lol

It should be compulsory to learn to ride in the dirt first!Imagine a guy/girl with no dirt experience and the first time their bike slides in diesel/gravel/ice/whatever what is their first reaction?Hit the picks and bang down they go.

[mowgli]

It should be compulsory to learn to ride in the dirt first!Imagine a guy/girl with no dirt experience and the first time their bike slides in diesel/gravel/ice/whatever what is their first reaction?Hit the picks and bang down they go.

MIXONE you have a very good point there. I started in the dirt many years ago. Then a long period of nothing. Now road bikes. I've had the odd slide, particularly in the wet, and have been surprised at how controllable they were. Dirt works. You sir may have a bling!

[Crisis management]

Humph, I want a pair of those anti gravity pants that you lot obviously wear, mine clearly, were a cheap pair, and don't work......

[sugilite:Me]

And are planning my next one for this evening
Thats the way I read these kinds of posts.

IMHO, a lot of crashes are due to riders convincing themselves that they are indeed crashing...goes like, ARGGGG I'm crashing, so they do. Now preloading in your mind that crashing is inevitable will accelerate that process, to my way of thinking anyways.

I've crashed plenty, I'm a racer. Though I've got away with plenty as well. Do not give up on the thought of saving it until your lying on the ground and the bike is over there somewhere.

See attached pic of one of my crashes.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/pi...&pictureid=359

[Mikkel]

I've crashed plenty, I'm a racer. Though I've got away with plenty as well. Do not give up on the thought of saving it until your lying on the ground and the bike is over there somewhere.

You're thinking about something along the lines of this I take it:

[homer]

Read most of the 'I binned it today' posts here and the theme is similar - they go something like.....

I was doing 200 around a 180 degree bend going down Mt Everest when I suddenly lost it - unsure what the reason was but I noticed later that the road was covered in snow.

Most times unless another party is involved are due to way to much speed for the situation/conditions.

fuck i like it lots
made me laugh

[Mike748]

You're thinking about something along the lines of this I take it:

Great Pic, "yeah we can still save it" lol

Being totally stubborn and refusing to quit can also work against you! and had me on the deck a few months ago.
I should have stopped for a rest I knew I was tired, I knew I my reactions were too slow and my lines were off, but did I stop Noooooo I pushed on .... and before long I was pushing the bike onto the trailer.

[FJRider]

The only TRUE way to avoid a bin is stay in bed. The more you ride, the more chance there is of RIDDUS INTERRUPTUS. Care, ability, and old fashioned LUCK. All play a part.