False Neutral?

[Gunner]

Had the sv a week and have just run it in, but every now and then when changing gears from 5th to 6th it doesnt go completley into 6th it just revs as if im in neutral then i have to try it again and it goes in. weird thing is, it feels like it has gone into 6th when i change gear because it doesnt want to go up any further.
Is it because its a new bike? or maybe the engine speed isnt fast enough for that gear(5th gear 5000rpm 100km/h)???.
Anyone else had this problem?

[White trash]

Doesn't sound normal at all and Suzukis are renowned for having the best gear bags in the biz.

Definitely get it checked soon.

[James Deuce]

Had the sv a week and have just run it in, but every now and then when changing gears from 5th to 6th it doesnt go completley into 6th it just revs as if im in neutral then i have to try it again and it goes in. weird thing is, it feels like it has gone into 6th when i change gear because it doesnt want to go up any further.
Is it because its a new bike? or maybe the engine speed isnt fast enough for that gear(5th gear 5000rpm 100km/h)???.
Anyone else had this problem?

It will sort itself out. It's part of the running in process. If it isn't any better after 3000km or so, go back to the shop.

I found this on the GSXR250 I bought new about 100 years ago. 5th and 6th gear sort of felt sloppy for the first 5000km and 6th sometimes didn't go in like you say. Then I had the 5000km service and it was the crispest box I've ever owned.

[Posh Tourer :P]

I agree - although false neutrals (having had experience on bikes that get them quite a bit) often do feel like that - you probably have a case for a replacement gearbox if it can't be fixed though - there's probably something out of alignment...

[Gunner]

having only done 900k's and will be due for its first service this week im guessing its a new bike thing, but im just not sure. Will soon see if the problem changes when i get it serviced.

[gav]

Does the SV have a gear linkage? may just need adjusting for your size foot, mention it at first service and get them to check your foot on peg etc,maybe slightly out of reach for you on final upshift.

[Uncle B]

Hi Gunner,
Met you on the Hill today & then in M/borough....The SV looks sweet.
White trash is right about Suzuki's having good gearbox's.....Mention it to Sawyers when you go for the first service.
Can you feel a "click" when you change gear or are you having to over extend your foot ??

Again nice to meet you today....see you on the Hill again

[Teflon]

Had the sv a week and have just run it in, but every now and then when changing gears from 5th to 6th it doesnt go completley into 6th it just revs as if im in neutral then i have to try it again and it goes in. weird thing is, it feels like it has gone into 6th when i change gear because it doesnt want to go up any further.
Is it because its a new bike? or maybe the engine speed isnt fast enough for that gear(5th gear 5000rpm 100km/h)???.
Anyone else had this problem?

Havn't had the pleasure of riding a SV yet, but rode a TL for a while. My experience with the TL was a bit notchy compared to the old GSXR11, still bliss compared to the VTR.

[Gunner]

Hi Gunner,
Met you on the Hill today & then in M/borough....The SV looks sweet.
White trash is right about Suzuki's having good gearbox's.....Mention it to Sawyers when you go for the first service.
Can you feel a "click" when you change gear or are you having to over extend your foot ??

Again nice to meet you today....see you on the Hill again

Sometimes it feels like it clicks and sometimes it doesnt, dont know if thats a good thing or not but it clicks in all the gears at one time or another but never have the problem except in changing from 5th to 6th.

[Motig]

I'd definitely take the advice and tell your dealer when you get the service. I find it also pays to keep a note of who you told, the day and approximate time. Its always handy to have a reference in case somebody has mental failure.
I would be very suprised if the problem was normal with a new bike these days, unless of course your used to owning an old Brit bike (when new they came standard with problems).
But apart from that I do like the look of the SV and especially its bigger brother.

[Redstar]

Try a clutchless. No not crutchless! it migth be your not used to the rev gain between gears at the top end and the syncro can't cope with the all that rev gain between changes unless you back off the throttle. I had a similar prob with a kawa 400 until I realised that when upchanging the Clutch only needed a token disengage action like a sort of soft action not a full clutch pull.
having said that I think the running in question is a valid point. its a wet clutch on the sv I assume? and they probably put a full mineral oil in to get you started but the service will give you a semisynth and that has the detergents to clean up the clutch. then after a bit of a thrash it will all settle down nicely.Try double declutching old fashion I know but might help, For the uninitiated and there may be one? double declutching is a pointless on anything other than a cossack ural but it has it merits for overcomming stuffed syncro rings and it sounds like your a pro if you can flick the revs between gears and it will help engagement. I also think footwear and the gear level adjustment is a relavent combination, ever tried to ride a sportsbike in steeltoed freezer worker boots? not a very clever process!

[merv]

Keep your foot pressured up against the lever when you shift and don't let the pressure off until after you let the clutch out then it will slip in if it aint in in the first place. That's a lot of "ins" but it will do the trick.

Bikes have dog-clutch gearboxes so there isn't any synchro but they slip in no sweat as long as you make them do it.

[Zapf]

Hi Gunner,
I ran into this myself as well. I tend to find that giving the gear level a quick flick rather than a slow lift of the left foot makes it happens less. But I suspect it also have to do with engine oil and oil temp as well.

I find that it does it more while running simi synthic than full minerial. But I still only have 3'000k's on mine so can't really say if it to do with running it.

Let me know how u go

Cheers
Zapf

[Gunner]

Hi Gunner,
I ran into this myself as well. I tend to find that giving the gear level a quick flick rather than a slow lift of the left foot makes it happens less. But I suspect it also have to do with engine oil and oil temp as well.

I find that it does it more while running simi synthic than full minerial. But I still only have 3'000k's on mine so can't really say if it to do with running it.

Let me know how u go

Cheers
Zapf

At the moment its just a little trial and error to see what is causing it, it only happened once today which is good.

Im trying to be a little more positive in the gear change so hoping that will do the job.

[Teflon]

Do you use the clutch?, if you do, try changing without it.