Auckland police too busy?

[Indoo]

The Kahui case was so badly handled that whoever wasted tax payer money investigating that should no longer have a job. That person or persons are a waste of space.

And you can of course explain exactly why it was so badly handled and what you would have done differently?

Given you've already made the claim you clearly already know the answer, or you'd be just another full of shit blowhard, which your not right?

[Maki]

And you can of course explain exactly why it was so badly handled and what you would have done differently?

Given you've already made the claim you clearly already know the answer, or you'd be just another full of shit blowhard, which your not right?

I would have interviewed those who were in a position to harm the twins ASAP, followed up on leads (such as taped confessions) and I would have arrested those who were responsible for taking care of the twins for failing to provide the necessities of life (they were malnourished with previously broken bones).

I would never have prosecuted Chris Kahui with nothing in my hands to prove he did anything. The case was a farce and it was a waste of my money and your money.

I does not take a genius to see that the people responsible for investigating this case should be doing something other than police work. They simply do not have what it takes. Don't tell me you think they did a good job.

[scumdog]

To all those that post 'cops always screw it up' posts on KB??

Sign up, go to Porirua for your 5 months training - and then get out there and show us retards in the Police how it SHOULD be done...without mistakes and NO traffic work....well, what's stopping you??.

Oh, and I'll keep on doing what I do at work until then - as long as you lot pay me.

[Maki]

To all those that post 'cops always screw it up' posts on KB??

Sign up, go to Porirua for your 5 months training - and then get out there and show us retards in the Police how it SHOULD be done...without mistakes and NO traffic work....well, what's stopping you??.

Oh, and I'll keep on doing what I do at work until then - as long as you lot pay me.

Would love to. Just can't afford it. I have a family to support....

I think most policemen are good honest people who want to improve society. Too bad some of them are not, and the others don't seem to have the support they need.

[Dave Lobster]

I think most policemen are good honest people who want to improve society. Too bad some of them are not, and the others don't seem to have the support they need.

+1. I've only had need to meet one policeman in this country so far. And, he asked me the most retarded questions a policeman has ever asked me.

Why are you swerving all over the road? (I was on a bike, and positioning myself for maximum visibility. A quality policeman wouldn't have needed to ask this. He'd have known. It's on the most basic of ANY driving/riding course)

Don't you think 120km/h is fast? (On a clear open road with no pedestrians for ten km, no, frankly I don't. My laughing didn't stop them coming)

Do you know how many people are killed in accidents on this road? (Suspecting he means crashes, rather than blame free accidents, of course I f*cking don')

He couldn't tell me how many were related to speed rather than incompetence and/or an unroadworthy vehicle. Which I thought was a far better question.

[Swoop]

I would have interviewed those who were in a position to harm the twins ASAP, followed up on leads (such as taped confessions)...
I would never have prosecuted Chris Kahui with nothing in my hands to prove he did anything. The case was a farce and it was a waste of my money and your money.

Quicker than six months? You are over qualified for the force by showing such common sense.

Who wouuld want to get paid crap wages to join the plod? Up the pay and they might not have to recruit spotty-faced kids. (Anyone else see Motroway Patrol last week? How old was that Policeman Policeboy?)

[Toaster]

Who wouuld want to get paid crap wages to join the plod? Up the pay and they might not have to recruit spotty-faced kids. (Anyone else see Motroway Patrol last week? How old was that Policeman Policeboy?)

Agreed. The starting wage for a young "new cop" is great, but once you have a family and mortgage etc its much harder to survive when the pay rises by a very small increment each year - failing to recognise the value of experience gained in the process. The pay rounds barely keep up with accumulated general inflation let alone localised inflation.

[Toaster]

To all those that post 'cops always screw it up' posts on KB??

Sign up, go to Porirua for your 5 months training - and then get out there and show us retards in the Police how it SHOULD be done...without mistakes and NO traffic work....well, what's stopping you??.

Oh, and I'll keep on doing what I do at work until then - as long as you lot pay me.

They could always be posted to Porirua station on graduation... that would shut them up real fast.

[Indoo]

I would have interviewed those who were in a position to harm the twins ASAP, followed up on leads (such as taped confessions) and I would have arrested those who were responsible for taking care of the twins for failing to provide the necessities of life (they were malnourished with previously broken bones).

So you think that the detectives didn't try and interview the family as soon as they could and didn't follow up any leads?

In this country you cannot force someone to be interviewed, they can and as the Kahui's showed refuse to be interviewed or even speak to the Police, hence giving rise to all the tight 12 and wall of silence hoopla which you must have missed.

I does not take a genius to see that the people responsible for investigating this case should be doing something other than police work. They simply do not have what it takes. Don't tell me you think they did a good job.

But as you've already shown you have no clue about the basics of police work, or even the laws in this country, let alone what it takes to be a detective in South Auckland. Its not CSI Miami when Police can just haul people in and then gain confessions to fit in a neat 60 minute package.

[scumdog]

I does not take a genius to see that the people responsible for investigating this case should be doing something other than police work. They simply do not have what it takes. Don't tell me you think they did a good job.

I've ignore the previous prepubescent ramblings and cut to the above comment.

So how many years WERE you doing the job to know these guys 'simply do not have what it takes'?

("I does not take a genius" - take one where??)

Or do you have some sort of black-belt in the 'Monday morning quarter-back' club?

BTW: You fall into that classic cliched KB noob club - has less than a 100 posts and rides a 250......

Or are you just a troll??

[Pixie]

Do you live in Auckland? Do you have any idea what the police are so busy doing?

Visiting and apologising to PCA compainants. (see post #2 )

[Ixion]

I would have interviewed those who were in a position to harm the twins ASAP, followed up on leads (such as taped confessions) and I would have arrested those who were responsible for taking care of the twins for failing to provide the necessities of life (they were malnourished with previously broken bones).

I would never have prosecuted Chris Kahui with nothing in my hands to prove he did anything. The case was a farce and it was a waste of my money and your money.

I does not take a genius to see that the people responsible for investigating this case should be doing something other than police work. They simply do not have what it takes. Don't tell me you think they did a good job.

Unfortunately, as in most things, life is more complicated than we would have it.

The cops can't interview anyone in NZ (some rare exceptions, not applicable here), unless they are willing to be interviewed. "You do not have to say anything ...". And had they arrested the parents on a lesser charge they would have pretty much shut down any hope of getting people to talk about the deaths.

I suspect that , in private, the police prosecutors would agree with you that they should not have prosecuted Mr Kahui. But , think now, if they had said "Sorry, we're not going to charge anyone over these two childrens' deaths"? What a storm of public indignation there would have been then. They had to charge *someone*. The public would not let them do otherwise.

And deaths of children are always going to be hard to prove. The classic criteria for "who dun it" of motive, opportunity and capability are all usually inadequate. Usually a number of people who could have hit them. Motive is meaningless, because there can never be any. And capability, well any adult (or even a child) can kill a baby very easily. And whatever is done is usually done in private. Only the perpetrator and the (dead) victim present. So, no witnesses.

And the cops can't just "arrest everyone in sight on suspicion". Obviously, everyone is arrested "on suspicion" (because they haven't been found guilty yet) ; but cops must have some grounds to arrest anyone . To do otherwise would make them liable for an action for wrongful arrest.

It sucks, but that's sort of the definition of real life sometimes.

[jahrasti]

Unfortunately, as in most things, life is more complicated than we would have it.

The cops can't interview anyone in NZ (some rare exceptions, not applicable here), unless they are willing to be interviewed. "You do not have to say anything ...". And had they arrested the parents on a lesser charge they would have pretty much shut down any hope of getting people to talk about the deaths.

I suspect that , in private, the police prosecutors would agree with you that they should not have prosecuted Mr Kahui. But , think now, if they had said "Sorry, we're not going to charge anyone over these two childrens' deaths"? What a storm of public indignation there would have been then. They had to charge *someone*. The public would not let them do otherwise.

And deaths of children are always going to be hard to prove. The classic criteria for "who dun it" of motive, opportunity and capability are all usually inadequate. Usually a number of people who could have hit them. Motive is meaningless, because there can never be any. And capability, well any adult (or even a child) can kill a baby very easily. And whatever is done is usually done in private. Only the perpetrator and the (dead) victim present. So, no witnesses.

And the cops can't just "arrest everyone in sight on suspicion". Obviously, everyone is arrested "on suspicion" (because they haven't been found guilty yet) ; but cops must have some grounds to arrest anyone . To do otherwise would make them liable for an action for wrongful arrest.

It sucks, but that's sort of the definition of real life sometimes.

You know IXION I don't agree with alot of your posts, but this is very good.
Half reporting usually is the main factor in forging public opinion on a subject.

[Maki]

I've ignore the previous prepubescent ramblings and cut to the above comment.

So how many years WERE you doing the job to know these guys 'simply do not have what it takes'?

("I does not take a genius" - take one where??)

Or do you have some sort of black-belt in the 'Monday morning quarter-back' club?

BTW: You fall into that classic cliched KB noob club - has less than a 100 posts and rides a 250......

Or are you just a troll??

If I could come up with nothing better than making accusations like noob, troll, monday morning quarterback, etc, then I would keep my mouth shut. Factual discussions and opinions are fine. If you spread dirt you just end up with a lot sticking to yourself and a bad smell. That's why I don't stoop to it myself. Feel free to continue in the same manner. You judge yourself by your actions.

[98tls]

Given that in the major centers an awful lot of police time is wasted following up 111 calls that are simply a waste of time then maybe we could off-set that by those that continually and so heroically rubbish cops on here could instead of wasting interweb space talking about it just agree to not bother using the services the cops offer no matter what there problem at the time.Instead of bitch moaning make a stand.