Gixxer frames are made of tissue paper

[DEATH_INC.]

Casting makes 'em light and rigid, but unfortunately that means no flex, the thing that saves 'em when you crash.....take ya pick, handling OR durability...

[kiwifruit]

You my or may not be taking the piss

Nope

I mean hell 170hp at the wheel (being generous) is going to stand up pretty bloodey easy.

yes, they will loft the front under power
look at the sorts of wheelies these bikes are doing when racing, these are not the sorts of "wheelies" that puts stresses on the frame it wasn't designed to handle.

they are not made to land hard

And the brakes they have will stoppie them.

Sure.
They are not made to land a stoppie hard though.

if they didnt want to do wheelies etc they dont have much need for a 1000cc most of the time.
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what a load of bollocks

They should be made stronger.

If they are used as intended there isn't a problem.

[Matt Bleck]

You my or may not be taking the piss
but its true

I mean hell 170hp at the wheel (being generous) is going to stand up pretty bloodey easy.

And the brakes they have will stoppie them.

Its not like suzuki dont know people stunt gsxr's if they didnt want to do wheelies etc they dont have much need for a 1000cc most of the time.

unless on the track...

They should be made stronger.

They are a RACE replica, homogalted so suzuki can race them in the WSBK. They are made to be as light as possible, not to be binned, wheelied or stoppied.

[White trash]

If they are used as intended there isn't a problem.

That's what I've been saying for the past 12 months. I've crashed mine more often than I've ridden it. Straight as an arrow, no cracks.

Thanks for your informed input once again though Mark, whatever it was. Very insightfull I'm sure.

[SPman]

ummn, Monocoque construction essentually means stressed skin. EG, airplanes, jap cars etc etc.

ZX12R...........

[Shadows]

Bloody Jap crap

[skidMark]

Nope


yes, they will loft the front under power
look at the sorts of wheelies these bikes are doing when racing, these are not the sorts of "wheelies" that puts stresses on the frame it wasn't designed to handle.

they are not made to land hard


Sure.
They are not made to land a stoppie hard though.


what a load of bollocks


If they are used as intended there isn't a problem.

but the people who buy these things dont do perfect wheelies stoppies etc, this is who they are sold to.

In an ideal world etc etc.

[kiwifruit]

but the people who buy these things dont do perfect wheelies stoppies etc, this is who they are sold to.

In an ideal world etc etc.

ahh, of course.... what was i thinking
sorry mate, you are quite right.

[Gremlin]

but unfortunately that means no flex, the thing that saves 'em when you crash.....

flex also happens during normal riding (well, maybe not normal riding). Ultimately, the long and short is that the frame will go brittle over time, how much time depends how it is treated (and obviously what the frame is made of). No bike is perfect, but the big manufacturers think we all want lighter faster bikes, which some do, but not all. Suzuki isn't alone with frame issues either, just more morons crash them at the moment

Personally, I'm done with sportbikes... they look uglier every year and make me lose my license!

[White trash]

Suzuki isn't alone with frame issues either, just more morons crash them at the moment

That's because more morons are buying them Despite their "tissue paper" frames, GSXRs are more popular than ever before.

Hmmmmmm, must be a conspiracy.......

[Big Dave]

GSXRs are more popular than ever before.
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They are selling so well because each owner usually writes a few off.

[merv]

At least that one never sheared off near that nasty weld they have right in the wrong place for high stresses.

[Gremlin]

That's because more morons are buying them Despite their "tissue paper" frames, GSXRs are more popular than ever before.

First part is exactly correct... whichever bike is the crasher's chosen one (gsxr's have been it lately) will feature more...

second part, too hard to tell... its been said before, and Dave has said it again (and he was probably the one saying it before). Plus, if the bike can be written off more easily (and damage to the frame is good like that) and the moron buys another... well... easy increase in sales, as most don't write just one off