Learner License 70km/h limit?

[James Deuce]

I forget where, but I read under the upcoming changes that the 70kmph rule is going to be removed for all the reasons listed above.

The LTNZ proposal I read was to increase the L speed limit to 90 km/hr and enforce it.

The 70kph speed was set when the speed limit was 80 kph.

[sunhuntin]

lets say your going at 100km
and then youll find your still holding up traffic as you need to do 110km to actually catch up traffic.

the point is now youll have no licence as youll be 40 km over .

i would pull over and let the held up traffic go by, and then pull out. that would be the safest option for new riders.

i remember my first open road experience... to turakina and back at 70k. damn near got run over more than once. after that, i left town doing 100k, no more, no less.

[TimeOut]

I forget where, but I read under the upcoming changes that the 70kmph rule is going to be removed for all the reasons listed above.

With this in the pipeline they should be more lenient.

[Horse]

lets say your going at 100km
and then youll find your still holding up traffic as you need to do 110km to actually catch up traffic.

the point is now youll have no licence as youll be 40 km over .

Wrong. If you're riding at 100km/h on your L plate you can be done for riding in breach of the conditions of your licence. $400 fine, 25 demerits - but it's NOT a speeding ticket.

If you're riding at 115km/h on your L plate you can be done for riding in breach of the conditions of your licence AND 15km/h over the speed limit.

For the entire period of my learners (which ended 2 weeks ago) I rode at 100km/h on the open road, and with an L plate on. Only thing that changed in going to a 6R is I have now taken the L plate off.

[BiK3RChiK]

I ride at 100km/hr on the open road on my learners and just last week took the L-plate off. I have been tail-gated, cut-in on, verbally abused and had a beer bottle thrown out of a loser boy-racer car by a bunch of yobbo's at me all with my L-plate on. I quickly learnt to ride at 100km/hr on the open road but persevered with the L-plate thinking I was doing the right thing. The L-plate just seems to be a loser magnet, so off it came... I started to feel like I should be riding with a couple of 6-shooters holstered on the bike somewhere! If I get pulled over by the fuzz, I'll be explaining all this to them, but don't plan to be on my learners for long anyway.

[Tank]

I raised this with the LTSA when I was talking to them about my licence.

They said that they didnt like people on "L's" riding on the open rode too much (esp. Motorways) because of the dangers that this causes.

When I told them I "open road it" a lot they offered me the chance to sit my full immediately (I was on L-Plates and had been riding about 6 weeks).

So I got dispensation for my larger bike and sat my full about a month later (I wanted to get some riding time in before trying to sit my full).

So I never even had to have the restricted period (choice!).

If you are in the same boat - it may pay to call LTSA and discuss it with them.

BTW - this is only about 7 months ago should still be current.

[Tank]

I was told by an officer 'o teh law, "70k learner speed-limit has NEVER been enforced.

I believe that its generally got a blind eye turned to it, but to say its "NEVER been enforced" is just incorrect. People on here have been done for it previously.

[Jdogg]

Tank ,

Just to clarify- they just offered to let you go from your learners to your full? The reason I ask is after I saw your post I gave LTSA a call and after speaking to the manager, there is apparently no way that this would happen , Now I am not saying you weren't offered this ,but I would really keen to hear a bit more on how you achieved this, as I have the same issues as you 100k to from work , me too big for a 250cc etc

Thanks mate

[Ragingrob]

Tank ,

Just to clarify- they just offered to let you go from your learners to your full? The reason I ask is after I saw your post I gave LTSA a call and after speaking to the manager, there is apparently no way that this would happen , Now I am not saying you weren't offered this ,but I would really keen to hear a bit more on how you achieved this, as I have the same issues as you 100k to from work , me too big for a 250cc etc

Thanks mate

Check out http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=59445

Tank explains his process fully here.

[Tank]

Check out http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=59445

Tank explains his process fully here.

Dammmm - thats a fine post.


and yep - ended up passing and moving to my full after about 3 months from sitting my basic handling

[Jdogg]

Thanks Guys, Sounds like I will need to go on "find someone in LTSA who knows something" fishing expedition...I will let you know how I get on

Many Thanks

J

[Ragingrob]

Thanks Guys, Sounds like I will need to go on "find someone in LTSA who knows something" fishing expedition...I will let you know how I get on

Many Thanks

J

Just head to a licensing centre, fill out a DL4 form with why you need to be exempt from the law blah blah, and then hand it back, within 2 weeks you'll hear back from them with a yay or nay.

[Tank]

Thanks Guys, Sounds like I will need to go on "find someone in LTSA who knows something" fishing expedition...I will let you know how I get on

Many Thanks

J

Just go get the dispensation form from the AA . Fill it in (use the info I posted to help with info), and they will write back.

In their letter you will have a name and contact number (ChCh from memory) - then just give her a call and be nice. Cover your concerns about riding at 70 for long distances in the conversation with her.

The team that do dispensations is only 4 staff - and they try to help however they can.

Best of luck.

[CB ARGH]

I forget where, but I read under the upcoming changes that the 70kmph rule is going to be removed for all the reasons listed above.

That is correct

Thanks guys and gals!

[Ragingrob]

That is correct

Thanks guys and gals!

Yeah don't worry about it at all, they can't expect people to cruise along the open road on a little bike at 70kph can they!

How's the bike search coming along?