New Honda models & prices

**Grub** · 11th June 2008, 16:23

Originally Posted by xerxesdaphat

Why is Bluewing so bizarrely limiting their market?

To be (slightly) fair, I did edit the list and left out the cruisers

and off roaders as they weren't part of this discussion ... but you're right about the 400's. Wait until '09 or '10 if LAMS comes in ... then they'll be there. As you know I used to be Prod/Adv Manager for Honda NZ (cars) and we wouldn't bring a pack in unless there was a market. ATM, there doesn't seem to be a market ... every Rossi wannabe goes striaght from their 250 to a litre bike it seems

**xwhatsit** · 11th June 2008, 17:29

Well, I'm not sure lack of demand is the full story. There's massive demand for 250s; CB223S, FTR223 would slot in very nicely. Far, far better than the shitty Brazilian CBF250 meant for the third world.

And then there's all these people buying SV650s and ER6N/Fs; those 400 fours would be a lovely alternative for those who like fours instead of twins.

**Qkchk:Me** · 11th June 2008, 17:47

Did you hear they are bringing a VFR1000 out for 2009?

**AllanB** · 11th June 2008, 17:57

I picked up a copy of the latest Two Wheels magazine today as it has a quick test on the new 1000R - they love it.

But at $19k its dam close to the price of the Speed Triple (no fangy plastic exhaust covers on that!) and also in big-bore Monster territory.

The Honda may well be the better bike but you'd think in NZ they'd try to under cut the direct opposition a lot and have a smaller dollar gap to breach for the existing Hornet owners to trade up.

Dammit I like my bikes naked.

On the bright side the value on the second hand market for tidy 900 Hornets may well rise.

**nallac** · 11th June 2008, 19:49

man i can't believe the pricing of the new cb1000r or 6oo.
i love the look of the new cb1000r but whos gonna pay that much for one.
makes the last of the cb900's the bargin buy of the century..

**Trouser** · 11th June 2008, 20:03

Originally Posted by xerxesdaphat

Well, I'm not sure lack of demand is the full story. There's massive demand for 250s; CB223S, FTR223 would slot in very nicely. Far, far better than the shitty Brazilian CBF250 meant for the third world.

Jesus you do crap on about the cbf.

The Cb223s is the biggest throwback ever but then again you seem to have a fetish for spokes and five gears. Shame it doesn't have a kick starter then.

You go on about the cbf having bugger all power but the cb223s has even less.

**Renegade** · 11th June 2008, 20:22

i really like the new 600 hornet but i think is so expensive cos its the uk made bike?? still for that kind of coin you have a street triple and i know which one id rather buy.

If it was the same price as the 900 i would actually consider it as my next bike, its like the suzuki gsr600, which is 1k more than the 900, silly really cos it keeps people like me who WANT to progres through the bike sizes out of them and tempted to go big to soon purely cos of the bang for ya buck, not that there is anything wrong with going from a 250 to a thou, just wish the 600's were a little cheaper like the er6n.

**TKDSKIP** · 11th June 2008, 20:52

It seems the only thing the cb900 and cb1000r share is the Hornet name.

The 1000r is a modern naked litre bike with some very tasty bits, like single sided swing arm, radial brakes and a lastest model retuned sports engine, this has to be at a premium over last cenuries technology used in the cb900.

It looks that it would be very compeditive against the likes of Speed Triple, Monsters, Super Duke and Tuono.

**McJim** · 11th June 2008, 21:06

Originally Posted by TKDSKIP

It looks that it would be very compeditive against the likes of Speed Triple, Monsters, Super Duke and Tuono.

Yeah, but after all is said and done....it's still a Honda

**AllanB** · 11th June 2008, 23:04

It seems the only thing the cb900 and cb1000r share is the Hornet name.

From what I have read Honda are deliberately NOT naming the 1000 a Hornet - thus the 'R' spec. This one is racier, harder with a euro designed edge (bla bla). Not as soft as the CB900.

Designed to complete directly with the earlier mentioned bikes (triple etc).

Thus price wise it is kind of understandable - its not a budget build - It just pisses me that it just leaves a huge gap for a good old reasonably priced naked.

Maybe that 1000cc CB naked retro will arrive in 09 keenly priced.

**Forest** · 12th June 2008, 05:44

The NZD is going down the toilet. You're going to see price rises across the board during the next 12 months.

**nallac** · 12th June 2008, 12:17

Originally Posted by AllanB

From what I have read Honda are deliberately NOT naming the 1000 a Hornet - thus the 'R' spec. This one is racier, harder with a euro designed edge (bla bla). Not as soft as the CB900.

Designed to complete directly with the earlier mentioned bikes (triple etc).

Thus price wise it is kind of understandable - its not a budget build - It just pisses me that it just leaves a huge gap for a good old reasonably priced naked.

Maybe that 1000cc CB naked retro will arrive in 09 keenly priced.

+1

whats there going to be buy around the old hornets price?
sweet f'all

oh well i'll be keeping it for longer then.

**swbarnett** · 12th June 2008, 17:25

I'm a Honda nut but after seeing those prices I'm seriously considering a Katana 750 as my next bike. Power/torque to weight similar to the 600 Hornet for only 10 thou.

(I'm on the GN now largely because of price at the time)