Singh family complaining about the police

[enigma51]

I feel for the family no person from nz or not should have to deal with a family member being killed but

Bitching about the fact that the cops took 25 min to get them?
Go to india or where ever you from and lets see how quickly the cops get to you and actually give a shit if you get shot or not.

They are pissed off with cops when its not even something the cops did lets get pissed off with the people that shot your son father or husband and not get your turbans in twist because the cops did not show up in time.

I dont like the cops tactics with speeding etc but if there is one thing NZ cops can be proud off is the fact that they always put 100% into solving serous crime and Im confident that the assholes that is responsible will get caught and punished but again not that cops fault if they only get 3 months or similiar in jail thats the pc policy's we have.

PS Rant over and yes i cant spell im not a born kiwi oooo wait neither can most so im sweeeeeeet

[firefighter]

exactly.Give our porr cops tazers at least! geez they don't even have them never mind a gun to shoot back with!

[devnull]

Forget tasers.... one of these in each car and a .45 on the belt

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Sports/Hunt...-159202789.htm

[Laava]

Actually, I agree with them. They [Singhs] were in a position to know the offenders had fled and the issue was getting their family member help. I think the police have had a sensibility failure at this scene. And yes, I agree they followed procedure and probably shit themselves that they get THAT wrong and subsequently get crucified by the media. Hard job they have innit? But I would be pissed off if it was my family.

[98tls]

Got a link to there whineging?Wonder if there life in NZ is that much of a disappointment that they pack up and piss offmethinks not.I feel for them but if nothing else am glad they have embraced the great Kiwi tradition of whingeing.

[Ixion]

In fact, they are not bitching about the fact that the cops took 25 minutes to get there. And, they didn't take that long. Just when they got there, they didn't do anything .

They are bitching (understandably) about the fact that the cops prevented the ambos going to help him for about 50 minutes, while he lay dying (or the ambos refused to go in, the buck is merrily passing)

But what they should really be bitching about (and what gravely concerns me) is that the 111 service repeatedly lied to them

His wife repeatedly phoned asking where the ambulence was. In fact, it was parked up around the corner. For half an hour. But instead of saying "Sorry it's not coming, it's going to be quite a while", they were (reportedly) repeatedly told "it will be there any minute". So, they waited.

If they had been told the truth , they could have bundled him into a car and driven him to hospital themselves, saving about 40 minutes. Whether that 40 minutes would have made the difference between living and dying I do not know (and probably no one ever will). But it certainly must have given him a better chance.

I'd be bitching too.

Moral: If you're ever in that situation, don 't rely on either police or ambos. Get yourslef, or get whoever it is , to hospital yourself as fast as possible.

Ironically, he;'d have been a lot better off if the police had sent a taxi!.

[scumdog]

Moral: If you're ever in that situation, don 't rely on either police or ambos. Get yourslef, or get whoever it is , to hospital yourself as fast as possible.

Ironically, he;'d have been a lot better off if the police had sent a taxi!.

Yup, what Ixion sez - you've already been shot, what's a few more bullet holes and/or family members shot as long as you get out quickly?? - and oh, don't forget to get 'yourslef' out too...

EVERYBODY has 20-20 hindsight - especially on KB.


BTW: Even Duncan Taylor (a shot cop) wasn't dragged out instantly....

[98tls]

Moral: If you're ever in that situation, don 't rely on either police or ambos. Get yourslef, or get whoever it is , to hospital yourself as fast as possible.

Ironically, he;'d have been a lot better off if the police had sent a taxi!.

Proof enough that ignorance has no boundries.Unbefuckinglievable.This is the only place you would get away with rubbish like that,then again ive no doubt you are fully aware of that.

[enigma51]

Hmmm here we go with people shooting their mouth before thinking, or knowing any facts.
I cannot speak for the police response, however the ambulance was staged at an SFP (safe forward point) around the corner, 8 minutes after the 111 call from the scene. This is absolutly procedure so I dont get shot. I dont give a fuck if someone is dying, I am not risking my life or partners life just rolling into an armed holdup blindly. The ambulance was held by police until they deemed it safe for the crew to enter. Ambulance communications were relying solely on an update from the police as to when they could enter and had no idea that the offenders had decamped already. For all they knew the offenders could have been hiding in the bushes next to the ambulance!!
Would the guy have lived had the ambulance got there earlier...who knows, and we never will.
I cannot remember a time that an ambulance officer was fatally wounded in line of duty, and I would like to keep it that way. We are not equipped to deal with armed offenders amd as such rely on information from the scene via police.

I agree speedie the graveyard is full of heroes.

Dont get me wrong I do feel for the family my issue is with them and the media trying to pin in on the police and maybe the medics when its the guy that shot him that should be blamed and punished ...... eye for an eye

[enigma51]

Oooo and dont give this bullshit about the guy did it because he hungry or poor or what ever greenie bullshit is the new thing. He shot the guy after he had the money in my eyes he is piece of shit and should be flushed

[Skunk]

Im confident that the assholes that is responsible will get caught and punished

I'm pretty sure they won't be punished - but that's a human rights, legal, and parole issue.

[jahrasti]

In fact, they are not bitching about the fact that the cops took 25 minutes to get there. And, they didn't take that long. Just when they got there, they didn't do anything .

They are bitching (understandably) about the fact that the cops prevented the ambos going to help him for about 50 minutes, while he lay dying (or the ambos refused to go in, the buck is merrily passing)

But what they should really be bitching about (and what gravely concerns me) is that the 111 service repeatedly lied to them

His wife repeatedly phoned asking where the ambulence was. In fact, it was parked up around the corner. For half an hour. But instead of saying "Sorry it's not coming, it's going to be quite a while", they were (reportedly) repeatedly told "it will be there any minute". So, they waited.

If they had been told the truth , they could have bundled him into a car and driven him to hospital themselves, saving about 40 minutes. Whether that 40 minutes would have made the difference between living and dying I do not know (and probably no one ever will). But it certainly must have given him a better chance.

I'd be bitching too.

Moral: If you're ever in that situation, don 't rely on either police or ambos. Get yourslef, or get whoever it is , to hospital yourself as fast as possible.

Ironically, he;'d have been a lot better off if the police had sent a taxi!.

Sweet, so next time me and my partner bundle a 8/10ths dead woman in our car and drive her to the hospital, him keeping her alive on the way. This because we just couldn't wait for an ambulance, not because they were taking to long, but because we guininely believed she would be dead other wise. Who knows I wonder if one day she will thank us? I think not.
IXION you are a COCK and all you other Police haters please think twice before calling us,if we provide such a bad service.

[Ixion]

Yup, what Ixion sez - you've already been shot, what's a few more bullet holes and/or family members shot as long as you get out quickly?? - and oh, don't forget to get 'yourslef' out too...

EVERYBODY has 20-20 hindsight - especially on KB.


BTW: Even Duncan Taylor (a shot cop) wasn't dragged out instantly....

Bullet holes ? Well, in this case, tthere was one place that the cops could say with certainty was safe. The shop where the guy was dying. because they were talking to the people there. No gunman there . So the "safe place" could have been the shop!

[Ixion]

Sweet, so next time me and my partner bundle a 8/10ths dead woman in our car and drive her to the hospital, him keeping her alive on the way. This because we just couldn't wait for an ambulance, not because they were taking to long, but because we guininely believed she would be dead other wise. Who knows I wonder if one day she will thank us? I think not.
IXION you are a COCK and all you other Police haters please think twice before calling us,if we provide such a bad service.

Your logic is flawed. If you (police) were there , then there would be no reason why the ambos would not be.

In this case the delay was caused (as far as I can tell) by the police who refused to enter the area, and prevented the ambos from doing so either.

[jahrasti]

Your logic is flawed. If you (police) were there , then there would be no reason why the ambos would not be.

In this case the delay was caused (as far as I can tell) by the police who refused to enter the area, and prevented the ambos from doing so either.

I am not commenting on that situation as I was not there and believe the media about as much as I beleive the shit that gets spouted on here.
There are a myriad of possibilities as to why whatever hapened.
Why don't they just do what everyone else does and file a PCA?