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    Stationary v parked?

    Here's a question for those who know the answer:

    "How long does a vehicle have to be stationary before it is classified as "parked""?

    Does stopping at the side of a roadway to drop off passengers count as "parking"?

    Why do I ask? Because I have just received via post a $60 ticket for inconsiderate parking for the night of the Wellington All Black test when Mrs H dropped me and my brother outside of the Stadium. She would have been stopped for 10 seconds, maximum. There was no signage in place prohibiting such vile activity.

    Has a crime befitting a $60 fine been committed here, or has Officer RH1492 merely had some sort of aneurysm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Land Transport (Road User) Rule 2004
    6.1 Vehicles must be parked with due care and consideration
    * A driver or person in charge of a vehicle must not stop, stand, or park the vehicle on a road, whether attended or unattended, without due care or without reasonable consideration for other road users.
    So it seems you can be done for inconsiderate parking while stopped, standing or parked. You don't need a definition. You need to show that in the circumstances she exercised due consideration for other road users.

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    Here ya go,

    http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/con...arking-control

    1.2 Stopping, standing and parking
    In the Land Transport Rule: Traffic Control Devices 2004 (Rule 54002) and the Land Transport (Road
    User) Rule 2004 (Rule 61001), ‘parking’ is defined as meaning:
    • in relation to any portion of a road where parking is for the time being governed by the location of
    parking meters or vending machines placed under a bylaw of a local authority, the stopping or
    standing of a vehicle on that portion of the road for any period exceeding five minutes
    • in relation to any other portion of a road, the stopping or standing of a vehicle (other than a
    vehicle picking up or setting down passengers in a loading zone or reserved parking area, and
    entitled to do so) on that portion of the road.
    The Traffic Control Devices Rule also goes on to define ‘standing’ as stopping:
    • for the purpose of picking up or setting down passengers, or, in the case of a taxi stand, for the
    purposes of waiting for hire
    • while a vehicle remains attended by the driver at all times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    I may be fucked, but I'm not going down without a fight on this one.
    Here's ya chance to use big words and correct their grammar too - that'll piss 'em off as much as anything!

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    I don't know the answer, but it seems that if was "inconsiderate" then it holds that another person was inconvenienced. Princeton: "lacking regard for the rights or feelings of others"

    It is impossible to be inconsiderate to no person, so who was this other person ? If no person is putting their hand up with a rational complaint, then their allegation is hot air. If such a person does have a complaint, is it valid or are they just pissed because they didn't/couldn't do the same thing as you ? Is the complainant the same person as the informant ? If so, where their rights and/or feelings interfered with ? No ? Then its hot air.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    I don't know the answer, but it seems that if was "inconsiderate" then it holds that another person was inconvenienced.
    Acting in a way that can (or is likely to) inconvenience others is inconsiderate.

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    The ticket is a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johan View Post
    Traffic Control Devices 2004 (Rule 54002) and the Land Transport (Road
    User) Rule 2004 (Rule 61001), ‘parking’ is defined as meaning....
    Open and shut.

    I look forward to reading the local authority's wording in the forthcoming letter of abject apology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    Open and shut.

    I look forward to reading the local authority's wording in the forthcoming letter of abject apology.

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    I think you can do 'em here Brett.

    Parking should not be parking if the driver is in the car and the engine is running, and the intention is to drop off a passenger.

    Common sense should apply. The cop has had a brain infarction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    Here's a question for those who know the answer:

    Has a crime befitting a $60 fine been committed here, or has Officer RH1492 merely had some sort of aneurysm?
    i think you will find that Senior Sgt richard Hocken of the wellington central police is the man in charge of all traffic at stadium events and vigourously enforces it, it appears at a glance he is the issuing officer, you will get no joy from him, good luck with that one.

    $60 would have bin the cost of ya taxi anyway, save your energy and part with the dosh.

    just my 2c from personal experience.

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