Lower Speed Limits

**mini_hooks_** · 3rd January 2005, 10:19

Originally Posted by alarumba

I hope they will have a 10m stretch of 50kph road on a 100kph highway and a speed camera right next to that stretch of road. That would pull in the money, I mean, make the roads safer

they will probably do that now, what were you thinking saying that...

i wonder how long it will take them to think of that...

**Coyote** · 3rd January 2005, 10:22

Originally Posted by theknightrider

Fuck that shit.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

**avgas** · 3rd January 2005, 10:31

Originally Posted by Posh Tourer :P

Yep, it sounds like the twisty areas will be the ones with lower speed limits......

How about better driver training? Or is that too hard to do?

Or they actually punish those that do wrong

, instead of the "Oh you didnt see a motorbike - thats understandable. Dont take it too hard" approach.
Cant believe the guy who hit me only got $400 fine and 4 months licence disqualification - after pleeding guilty.
I didnt get squat from him, and he was driving before i could walk.

car drivers that dont see shit smaller than a horse.
PS: where he hit me a was 1ft from a foot path - what if that had been a little kid

**scumdog** · 3rd January 2005, 10:32

Originally Posted by theknightrider

Fuck that shit. Just don't pay them. They write them of eventually.

Look at all the riding time you will lose doing 'community service' - and don't forget the court appearances, more time lost and then if you have anything of value (not your head at present) you will lose it when the courts sieze it, notice the common word here is LOSE and if you lose anything you must be a loser.

Of course you might just be an annoying, persistant troller.

**avgas** · 3rd January 2005, 10:33

Originally Posted by theknightrider

Fuck that shit. Just don't pay them. They write them of eventually.

actually now they have the right to reposess the vehicle if you dont pay your fines - ask white trash

**Coyote** · 3rd January 2005, 11:03

Originally Posted by avgas

actually now they have the right to reposess the vehicle if you dont pay your fines - ask white trash

eep

**Jantar** · 3rd January 2005, 11:20

Originally Posted by Monsterbishi

Geez man, harden up already, even if they dropped a 50kph zone to 40kph, it would only add, on average, 90 seconds to your journey.

They're doing it to save lives, what better reason dya need?

It would add 25% to your journey. 90 seconds would be added to a journey that previously only took 6 minutes.. Who would use a motorbike for such a short trip?

**moko** · 3rd January 2005, 12:17

Just down the road from me a few streets have been turned into what is called a "Homezone",bear with this for a moment.Transport Minister is local M.P. so somehow £6 million quid gets spent turning this area into a pedestrian-friendly area 10m.p.h. limit(25 kph or so),no road markings at all,no pavements,pedestrians get right of way everywhere.They have these things in Holland where to be fair they do work.BUT this is Britain,home of the brainless and after 6 weeks of near-misses and the place being used as a stunt circuit by boy-racers they put bollards up to section off the pavements(which they still insisted were not pavements because Homezones dont have them) and put in a mini-roundabout and speed humps all over the place,what they could have done in the first place without all the fancy paving and saved millions of pounds.Ministry had about 20 complaints from residents in the first few weeks but still filled the media with positive stuff,including an interview in the local paper with a "resident" who didn`t even live there.Next the Police announce that the 10m.p.h. is un-enforceable as such a thing isnt currently in Brit legislation and wont be until if and when it goes through Parliament,the signs are still up though.Along with all the other stuff "homezones dont have" they installed monitering equipment with a view to sticking a speed camera there,would have been the ultimate trashing of the original idea.Main problem being that as the current "limit" is un-enforcable and the Minister had already been crowing about it in the national press it would have had to have been set to at least 20 m.p.h and made the guy look the twat he is.Latest is they`ve made part of it one-way and are still arguing about the rest of it.Typically Minister STILL proclaims this waste of time,money and space as being a success,well it was his idea so he would wouldn`t he?When t.v. filmed him doing the opening ceremony the cameras were actually placed on the site of a 30 metre long set of skid marks where the local hot-hatch dicks had been performing the Saturday before.

**Monsterbishi** · 3rd January 2005, 13:05

The 90 seconds saved is the result they found of a study done years ago, most journeys at 50kph, are less than 10k's travelled.

Whilst it's a 20% reduction in speed, the duration doesn't increase by the same factor since traffic doesn't flow at a constant rate over 50kph anyway.

**Jantar** · 3rd January 2005, 15:09

Originally Posted by Monsterbishi

The 90 seconds saved is the result they found of a study done years ago, most journeys at 50kph, are less than 10k's travelled.

Whilst it's a 20% reduction in speed, the duration doesn't increase by the same factor since traffic doesn't flow at a constant rate over 50kph anyway.

You are partially right. A 20% reduction in speed results in at least a 25% increase in time. It is even worse if the average speed was already less than 50 kph. Lets say its actually a decrease in average speed from 45 kph tp 35 kph (both 5 kph under the limit). The increase in time for this reduction is 28%. This is even worse as the 90 seconds saved now is from a journey of only 5 min 20 secs or 3.09 km.

I would be prepared to bet that the study for distances traveeled in a 50 kph zone was for commuters in cars. Few motorcyclists that I know would bother with getting their gear on for such a short journey. Car, pushbike or even walk would be more like it.

**avgas** · 3rd January 2005, 15:34

Originally Posted by moko

Just down the road from me a few streets have been turned into what is called a "Homezone",bear with this for a moment.Transport Minister is local M.P. so somehow £6 million quid gets spent turning this area into a pedestrian-friendly area 10m.p.h. limit(25 kph or so),no road markings at all,no pavements,pedestrians get right of way everywhere.

HAHAHAHAHA......hang on i'll just down gear my bike so it actually can do that without stalling......Otherwise my clutch will get abused.

**Blakamin** · 3rd January 2005, 15:38

ok... 35% speed.... 30% drink driving... why aren't there more random checks for drinking??? coz it cost money, not makes it!!!!
shit in Oz, you'll see a booze bus or random check any nite of the week if you're out after 8pm.... I haven't seen more than 2 in 2 years here... and neither were on highways like the "killer" one down the road... but theres a cop been on Raumati straight since 8.30am with a radar....
what is the other 35% and why aren't they targeting it????

**scroter** · 3rd January 2005, 16:37

Originally Posted by Blakamin

ok... 35% speed.... 30% drink driving... why aren't there more random checks for drinking??? coz it cost money, not makes it!!!!
shit in Oz, you'll see a booze bus or random check any nite of the week if you're out after 8pm.... I haven't seen more than 2 in 2 years here... and neither were on highways like the "killer" one down the road... but theres a cop been on Raumati straight since 8.30am with a radar....
what is the other 35% and why aren't they targeting it????

i havent seen one for ages either, i do about 2000ks a week in the truck and havent seen one for..... i cant actually remember. the other thing i dont like about them is they seem to let all the trucks drive straight thru like truck drivers dont drink and drive, there must be some, probably not 30% but some, hell its only gonna take 20 seconds. annoys me no end.