Can you get off a speeding ticket for incorrect information?

[avgas]

They are going to do this how? - by running a check on the plate which will show the car belongs to....????

Vehicle description does not match plate?

[Patrick]

- They don't need to show the radar gun was working.
- They don't need to show the cop knew how to use it, cos you confessed.


Interestingly, it would appear that the radar was being used with multiple vehicles in the beam. It can't really work in this mode, at least its operation in this mode is regularly rejected by the courts.

The policeman was using his experience and judgement to ping YOU as the speeding driver, even though all the radar was saying was "someone is speeding, but I don't know who"

Had you just politely said "fuck off you moron, heres my licence, now I'm off, post me the ticket" (or word to that effect !) you may have had a good chance of defending this ticket.

Having said "yeah I was speeding but the law is stupid" you have diminished you chances of a good defence.

Nonetheless, cops are pragmatic. Its a small ticket. It may not be worth prosecuting. The cop may leave the force, die of donuts, or lose the file.

Good luck !

Wrong on a few things there... unit must be certifed/calibrated as accurate, user must be certified to use it. Any one of those missing, its game over. As for the multiple targets, yeah, fastest and closest are the two. The fastest soon becomes the closest - piece of piss really... and the fastest is the one visually blasting past all the other obviously visually slower ones... Rocket science it aint...

If they ask "any reason for the speed?" then dont answer. just look at them and blink. You do NOT have to discuss things with them.
DB

I ask because some are funny, or they have an excuse (like the wife having a baby, right now...)... they get off....

Those that are rude/obnoxious or just plain ignorant/silent/whatever = ticket every time...

[P38]

I got off a ticket once for not wearing my seat belt when I was 18.

Had to go to court back then to dispute the tickets.

I told the Judge it's kinda hard to wear one when riding a Z1R.

He agreed and said see ya later.

The cop was pissed off that he had made a mistake when he was filling out the ticket and tried to explain to the judge but it was written in black n white so there was no argument really

I was not wearing a helmet,

Which is a totally Dumbass thing to do now that I look back.

So unless things have changed heaps in the last 30yrs, I'd dispute the ticket.

You probally got a pretty good chance of walking.

[spudchucka]

no worries you do that and see what happens.....!!!!

PS. I'm not a volly so no skin off my nose....although there WOULD be some taken off yours for doing something like that - especially if theyr'e off to an MVA!!!

pss. I wasn't having a dig at the police if you read what I wrote again you'll see I was having a dig at the rediculous and unecessary tickets which get issued quite often.....savvy?You'll find I actually defend the police A LOT on here....and actually have a lot of respect for the boys in blue....

Peace

I wasn't having a dig at firefighters, just pointing out that there are guilty people in all walks of life.

And as for the lunatic vollies, the messages has just been passed on to the big chief who has sorted the problem out nicely without any further police involvement.

MVA's, 1V's? The drivers I was talking about were the ones driving their own private cars to base, not the ones driving the appliance to the emergency. For some reason a few seem to think they can drive through town in whatever manor they want to in order to get on the truck first. I'm talking about exceeding 50 Kms by more than enough to remove their licence on the spot.

[FJRider]

he may have got that number wrong as well

TT I think the gave you an out just wait the 28 days then write in & say this is not the car i was driving

I'd bet money he DIDN'T...
AND the only OUT he will have, will be... "out of POCKET"

[firefighter]

I wasn't having a dig at firefighters, just pointing out that there are guilty people in all walks of life.

And as for the lunatic vollies, the messages has just been passed on to the big chief who has sorted the problem out nicely without any further police involvement.

MVA's, 1V's? The drivers I was talking about were the ones driving their own private cars to base, not the ones driving the appliance to the emergency. For some reason a few seem to think they can drive through town in whatever manor they want to in order to get on the truck first. I'm talking about exceeding 50 Kms by more than enough to remove their licence on the spot.

ahhhhhh, ya I see what you mean in their private cars that's not on.....I thought you were meaning pulling over a responding truck! hahaha (you can see why I responded the way I did!) Fair nuff then.

[spudchucka]

ahhhhhh, ya I see what you mean in their private cars that's not on.....I thought you were meaning pulling over a responding truck! hahaha (you can see why I responded the way I did!) Fair nuff then.

Those things can't do much more than 130 with a full load can they?

[davereid]

... unit must be certifed/calibrated as accurate, user must be certified to use it. Any one of those missing, its game over.

Absolutely relevant stuff if you need it in court.

If the ticket was denied, all that stuff would need to be correct or the police may lose. I say may, because in this case, the motorists admision that he was speeding will also be considered by the court.

If you just used your eye to judge a vehicles speed, and the driver admitted the offence you would have a strong case !

Thats the point I was making - you don't need to say "Yer honor, I zapped him with the radar which was calibrated an I am trained on"

All you need to say is "Yer honor, he admitted he was doing 114km/hr but its ok cos the law is an arse"

[Squiggles]

only works with parking tickets, but a speeding one would be against your license...

[Max Preload]

i'm not fully savvy on their response rules but iv'e seen them do some crazy shit....

I had one do a 3-point turn over a double yellow on a blind corner to presumably try and give me a speeding ticket for maybe 75 in a 50 (no side roads, broken yellows both sides, no houses or anything - you get the idea). That was far more dangerous than what I was doing so needless to say I didn't stick around to collect any paperwork. What's good for the goose etc. This was all after the Buller Gorge incident too.

[Shadows]

Can you get off a speeding ticket for incorrect information?

Of course you can. Just give the copper somebody else's name, fool.

[Max Preload]

As for the multiple targets, yeah, fastest and closest are the two. The fastest soon becomes the closest - piece of piss really... and the fastest is the one visually blasting past all the other obviously visually slower ones... Rocket science it aint...

I thought it was fastest and strongest signal...

[Patrick]

I thought it was fastest and strongest signal...

Yeah... that too... that is why there is training... So you can tell that the truck doing 35kmph up the hill and giving off the strongest and closest signal has little to do with the boy racer doing 173 passing him....

[davereid]

Yeah... that too... that is why there is training... So you can tell that the truck doing 35kmph up the hill and giving off the strongest and closest signal has little to do with the boy racer doing 173 passing him....

Do your operating procedures give you any guidelines for issuing tickets with multiple vehicles in the beam ?

Does the Stalker manual have any comment on it ?

[Max Preload]

Yeah... that too... that is why there is training... So you can tell that the truck doing 35kmph up the hill and giving off the strongest and closest signal has little to do with the boy racer doing 173 passing him....

What about the bike passing the boy racer... on the left...

I can't understand why there isn't a distance to target readout (and perhaps more importantly, a time stamp) accompanying each of the speeds. Perhaps they'll roll that out on the next model.