Re-vinning without papers?

[hang0ver]

I was wondering if anyone could enlighten me on this?

If you don't have the import papers for a bike, is there still a way to get it vinned?

Cheers,

_-H-_

[Pedrostt500]

Im in the process of getting a bike re vinned, you need to get two forms from a LTSA testing station, one is for the police to check if they have any interest in the bike, ie stolen or used in an unsolved crime. the second is for you to sighn in front of a justice of the peace to prove you own the bike.
the bike must be a make and model that was sold in New Zealand & previously regerstered in NZ.

[James Deuce]

No.

Race it.

[hang0ver]

Yeah, not registered here I don't think... So Jim2 may have the only applicable answer...

[James Deuce]

Sorry, I was a bit terse. There have been a couple of blokes who have fallen afoul of this issue after importing their bikes from parts afar. No papers, no re-vin.

[CookMySock]

if I can weld together some exhaust tubing in my shed, stick a motor, fuel tank, seats, and wheels on it, and register it for the road, I cannot imagine for the life of me why you cannot register a near-new motorbike of a type that is already on the road.

DB

[Steam]

If you are completely stuck and you really really want to register it, ship it to Australia, register it there (no pesky re-vin papers or ownership papers or anything needed, just a safety check at a bike shop), and then ship it back to NZ.

[James Deuce]

if I can weld together some exhaust tubing in my shed, stick a motor, fuel tank, seats, and wheels on it, and register it for the road, I cannot imagine for the life of me why you cannot register a near-new motorbike of a type that is already on the road.

DB

That is a completely different situation. There was a spate of vehicles imported to NZ that had been stolen at point of origin. The Rules were changed so that second hand imported vehicles had to meet certain criteria before they could be registered here.

If you don't meet those criteria then you don't get to VIN and register your 2nd hand vehicle here. You have to be able to prove you owned it at point of origin.

[crazefox]

mate i no a way around the no papers issue cant say how but PM me i can help

[rok-the-boat]

Recently got mine re-vinned with no docs. Police statment saying they have no interest in it. Letter outlining where I got it from, plus receipt from previous owner (it was not registered to him though). Justice of Peace statement verifying my letter - whatever that means. But, it was registered in NZ before, and prior to that, Oz. Not sure if that is a must - can't see why, really. Could you get a secondhand frame for it, I wonder, then sell the original on E-Bay? Stupid rules here.

[The Pastor]

yeah, some people i know sold frames for alot of $$ because of the plates that came with it

[Conquiztador]

Selling frames with papers is big business overseas. In some countries where a insurance is a must and where classic and veteran bikes have cheap insurance you buy an old frame with papers, transfer the numbers on to your frame and suddenly your bike is 20 years older and the insurance cost is 10% of what it would have been.

It also solves all the re-vinning issues. (Not that I have ever done any of that...)