Addition to the rules?

[Gubb]

With whole threads being moved to PD, is there any chance we can have the Mod that moves them post a short explanation as to why it's being moved? That way we know who it was, and why.

It seems that a lot of valid threads are being moved unnecessarily, while others that are crap remain in R&R.

Just a thought. My only concern would be that I don't want it to turn into a slagging match between the Mods and Thread starter.

[Hitcher]

"A lot of threads" have not been moved.

Mods, like other normal people, at times have difficulty calibrating drivel. I admit to being personally challenged at times differentiating between "pathetic drivel" and "facile drivel", and I apologise for any distress this inability on my part may cause some members.

[Luckylegs]

Its worthwhile knowing, not so we know how you justified it (cos who cares, thats just petty), but. It would be extremely useful to know what particular "thing" sent you, ( I mean the thread) over the edge.... so we can learn from our mistakes.

...Hell perhaps we could get really good at, self police ourselves and the Mods can have a holiday

[Nasty]

Its not the thing that sent someone over the edge .. I have spent many hours pruning stuff from threads that was just pure drivel before a thread has become so engrossed in it that the whole thread gets moved as it no longer provides a lot of benefit and is just a pisspot of toilet stuff.

[Hitcher]

Trust me when I say that any attempt by a Moderator to explain their decisions will not be met with an "Oh, OK then, thanks" response from members, even when that decision involves a cut-and-dried application of the site's rules.

Life is too short having to manage drivel without having to calibrate, reference and explain.

[Storm]

Give drivel the arse!!

[FROSTY:Me]

Trust me when I say that any attempt by a Moderator to explain their decisions will not be met with an "Oh, OK then, thanks" response from members, even when that decision involves a cut-and-dried application of the site's rules.

Life is too short having to manage drivel without having to calibrate, reference and explain.

AWW SUCH CYNICISM -- gwan Hitcher

[Mental Trousers]

There's only 1 reason a good thread goes to PD - it's become so full of crap posts that it's no longer possible to save it without butchering it.

The only reason to have the Moderators name on the thread is so that people can make it personal. It's nothing personal and the thread isn't moved because it was started by a certain person. If people want to blame someone for a thread ending up in PD blame those that fill it full of crap.

If you want to find out why a post was PD'ed (if it isn't obvious) then pm a Moderator or Senior Moderator (politely of course). They're happy to explain.

[Ixion]

There's only 1 reason a good thread goes to PD - it's become so full of crap posts that it's no longer possible to save it without butchering it.

Like for instance
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=71699
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=75089
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=75853
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=72270
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=72302

then ? Just to take a small, recent, sample .Pretty hard for an objective obeserver to see anything much that is either pointless or drivel in those , let alone 'impossible to save'. Unless of course 'pointless drivel' is defined as 'anything that makes a (by definition, middleclasss) moderator uncomfortable'.

The only reason to have the Moderators name on the thread is so that people can make it personal. It's nothing personal and the thread isn't moved because it was started by a certain person.

Unless the starter is mr Skidmark or Mr Katman, that is.

If people want to blame someone for a thread ending up in PD blame those that fill it full of crap.
If you want to find out why a post was PD'ed (if it isn't obvious) then pm a Moderator or Senior Moderator (politely of course). They're happy to explain.

See above.

The reality is that PD is used to stifle discussion on topics that are politcially incorrect on KB. Which is a constantly growing list.

[Mental Trousers]

hah, that's sad that you keep a list of links you can roll out at the 1st available opportunity.

Fix your links.

[Luckylegs]

Which largely explains why a thread which contains only completely useful posts ends up in PD. This is because all the PD posts being made to it were moved off the thread prior to the thread being sent to PD

Fark me,,, I get it...... I got it right, right

[Ixion]

hah, that's sad that you keep a list of links you can roll out at the 1st available opportunity.

Fix your links.

Worked for me. Amended to accomodate those who still use Internet Exploder or don't have Linky.

No, I don't keep them. A few seconds review was sufficient to find those.

You still haven't answered the question. Where is the pointless or drivel in those examples

[Mental Trousers]

This thread is, unfortunately, turning into a perfect example of how something gets taken off topic.

Gubb makes a request -> some people explain -> thread turns into something else, ie one person pushing their own agenda instead of starting their own thread.

Haven't looked at those threads and don't intend to. There is nothing that says things have to be justified to Ixion. Explaining why a thread is moved to the thread originator is a courtesy that doesn't extend to the sites self appointed Policeman.

[Ixion]

This thread is, unfortunately, turning into a perfect example of how something gets taken off topic.

Gubb makes a request -> some people explain -> thread turns into something else, ie one person pushing their own agenda instead of starting their own thread.

Haven't looked at those threads and don't intend to. There is nothing that says things have to be justified to Ixion. Explaining why a thread is moved to the thread originator is a courtesy that doesn't extend to the sites self appointed Policeman.

Not a matter of "explaining to Ixion". Who doesn't give a stuff.

Is a matter of correcting your incorrect statement :

There's only 1 reason a good thread goes to PD - it's become so full of crap posts that it's no longer possible to save it without butchering it

Demonstratably, untrue.

[Mental Trousers]

... in your opinion. An opinion which led to you no longer being a Moderator.