Addition to the rules?

[Trudes]

I don't actually get what the big deal is.
A thread gets moved to PD, ok, it's a little annoying, but there's nothing that stops people from posting in it (unless you've been naughty and can't see stuff in PD), so if the conversation is really worth carrying on then we can just carry it on in there.
There's a reason why threads often die in PD, because the topic is now mute, or the topic was long ago forgotten and thread has moved in a different direction, either way, it usually isn't locked (and when it is, usually is for a good reason) so posting can continue if you want to.

[Kittyhawk]

just cos ya pet fetish thread got moved mwwhahaha
hahaha

[Cajun]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=71699
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=75089
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=75853
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=72270
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=72302

3 of that 5 where started in pd, 1 was a silly post, and other was a number of complaints from members.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

ehhh a thread is in PD... big deal its still read able... its still postable, is still findable (in english that means searchable) big deal that its in the PD Section.

If you don't want a thread to go to PD then keep the thread on topic, don't post drivel... plain and simple, .

[Horse]

The only reason to have the Moderators name on the thread is so that people can make it personal.

How about having the mod's reason for moving/deleting/whatever without the mod's name?

eg:

MOD: this thread has become too full of drivel to recover; moved to PD.

[Her_C4]

This thread is, unfortunately, turning into a perfect example of how something gets taken off topic.

Gubb makes a request -> some people explain -> thread turns into something else, ie one person pushing their own agenda instead of starting their own thread.

Haven't looked at those threads and don't intend to. There is nothing that says things have to be justified to Ixion. Explaining why a thread is moved to the thread originator is a courtesy that doesn't extend to the sites self appointed Policeman.

and quite rightly too - not to Ixion or to anyone else. As mentioned elsewhere if someone (including Ixion) gets their knickers in a knot because a thread has been moved for some reason - don't cry about it in the forums. PM a Senior Moderator and ask.

I don't actually get what the big deal is.
A thread gets moved to PD, ok, it's a little annoying, but there's nothing that stops people from posting in it (unless you've been naughty and can't see stuff in PD), so if the conversation is really worth carrying on then we can just carry it on in there.
There's a reason why threads often die in PD, because the topic is now mute, or the topic was long ago forgotten and thread has moved in a different direction, either way, it usually isn't locked (and when it is, usually is for a good reason) so posting can continue if you want to.

Egggaackery

[Ixion]

ehhh a thread is in PD... big deal its still read able... its still postable, is still findable (in english that means searchable) big deal that its in the PD Section.

If you don't want a thread to go to PD then keep the thread on topic, don't post drivel... plain and simple, .

PD threads are not included in general searches


And the whole point is that many of the threads in PD (and those not the least germinal) are certainly not drivel

They may be politically incorrect accoridng to the (quite narrow) middle class standards that comprise the moderation world, but they are far from drivel

Classification of "that which a moderator dislikes" in this fashion is censorship, pure and simple. And bigoted censorship at that. The absence of both being originally the thing that the old KB prided itself on.

The OPs comment was

It seems that a lot of valid threads are being moved unnecessarily

[Ixion]

and quite rightly too - not to Ixion or to anyone else. As mentioned elsewhere if someone (including Ixion) gets their knickers in a knot because a thread has been moved for some reason - don't cry about it in the forums. PM a Senior Moderator and ask.

Ixion does not "get his knickers in a knot" because Ixion has long realised that in the New KB , any topic which steps outside the boundaries of what is endorsed by the wealthy right wing middle class group which now moderates KB will , pretty much automatically , end up in PD. As will any thread which breaches the "ostrich principle" that is fundamental to the site .

Ixion has, however, spent a lifetime opposing and condemning censorship and bigotry. And will continue to do so , here and elsewhere.

Ixion has also spent a lifetime endeavouring to remain upright and unsquashed. And is saddened when any motorcyclist, but especially the younger ones is squashed. And will continue to object to and castigate the KB ostrich principle, because it is detrimental to keeping novices unsquashed.

[Virago]

...the wealthy right wing middle class group which now moderates KB...

I'm not wealthy or "middle class", and definately not right wing.

...Ixion has, however, spent a lifetime opposing and condemning censorship and bigotry...

Physician, heal thyself.

[mstriumph]

............at times have difficulty calibrating drivel. I admit to being personally challenged at times differentiating between "pathetic drivel" and "facile drivel".............

my idol has feet of clay ...........

[Hitcher]

the wealthy right wing middle class group

You say that like it's a bad thing. Some of us have word damned hard and sacrificed much to get what little we have. I think it's perfectly reasonable not to want a bunch of cloth-capped, grudge-laden, left-wing bludgers with an entitlement complex trying to drag me down to their level. But I can only speak for myself.

I also think it's tragic when people have to resort to name calling and stereotyping to make a point.

[Her_C4]

Ixion does not ".....

Ixion has long realised ......

Ixion has, however .......

Ixion has also ....

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Hmmmm interesting ........

http://www.pauldavidson.net/2006/02/...-third-person/

[Her_C4]

You say that like it's a bad thing. Some of us have word damned hard and sacrificed much to get what little we have. I think it's perfectly reasonable not to want a bunch of cloth-capped, grudge-laden, left-wing bludgers with an entitlement complex trying to drag me down to their level. But I can only speak for myself.

I also think it's tragic when people have to resort to name calling and stereotyping to make a point.

Well THAT post is certainly worth a bling or two - Perfectly reasonable indeed.

Goooo Hitcher

[Ixion]

You say that like it's a bad thing. Some of us have word damned hard and sacrificed much to get what little we have. I think it's perfectly reasonable not to want a bunch of cloth-capped, grudge-laden, left-wing bludgers with an entitlement complex trying to drag me down to their level. But I can only speak for myself.

I also think it's tragic when people have to resort to name calling and stereotyping to make a point.

Mirror please, Mr Lucas.

There is certainly nothing wrong with being wealthy, so long as that wealth is honestly got by good old fashioned hard work and initiative., and not by exploiting the vulnerable.

Nor, I guess is there anything much actually inherently wrong with being middle class. Some folk just can't help it.

What is wrong is when lack of wealth, or not being "middle class" becomes a reason for derision or exclusion

And, if you were to open your eyes, you would find that by no means all the poor people in this country are "a bunch of cloth-capped, grudge-laden, left-wing bludgers with an entitlement complex"

Many of them are very honest decent people, working very long hours (how many full time jobs do you have, simultaneously?) for a miserable pittance of a wage.

Some, too, cannot work. They are ill, disabled , handicapped. I know by your standards that is doubtless blameworthy in itself, but there is little they can do about it. They must needs bludge, or starve.

Others again, selflessly accept work that is never well paid, being of service to others.

I could introduce you to people like the late Mr Singh. Who worked every day from 7am to 11pm. But, as it did not produce enough money to pay his entry fees into the world of the rich and the smug, I suppose he must have been a flat-capped bludger with an entitlement complex. Speaking of entitlement complexes, what about your Mr Petricevic. Having pocketed Heaven knows how many millions from gullible investors, he arranged for his personal tax bill to be paid by those same investors. And when the receivers of the shell he left behind demanded that he repay it, he responded with a demand for the better part of a million dollars in bonuses. Bonuses for ruining the company. He seemed to find nothing strange about that. Who, then has the entitlement complex? Bill Battler or your middle class mate Mr Petricevic ?

I could also introduce you to some people who own absolutely nothing in the way of worldly wealth, but are none the less amongst the most decent , finest human beings in this country.

I can't , I'm afraid, add balance by introducing you to some rich greedy financiers whose only concern is self interest at every one else's expense. But I'm sure that you already know plenty.

I'm not sure how a persons choice in head gear affects their value as a human being. Probably Mr Petricevic could enlighten me.

No, being middle class is not wrong. Just rather shameful.

[Swoop]

Some of us have word damned hard and sacrificed much to get what little we have.
... trying to drag me down to their level.

Most unlike you to type this. Have you been dragged down already?