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Thread: NZ vs rest of world: Toughness and enforcement of traffic laws

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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    hold on, doesn't the law say you have to "stop if you are able to safely" for an orange light ? Which means if you are scootin' along at 50k and the light goes orange at the last second it is perfectly legal to skip through it..

    My personal rule is, if I catch a trailing flash of red while running an orange, I cut that one too fine.

    DB
    Yup, sounds right to me. 2 of the guys I spoke to both said that the light was orange the whole way through, meaning they exited the other side of the intersection while it was still orange. Pretty fkn confusing if they cant clarify when exactly you're breaking the law enough to be ticketed (which by the way is a full $200 ticket, same amount as for going through red afaik!).

    Quote Originally Posted by smokeyging View Post
    Some of those darned lights change quick too. i suppose if we locked everything up and got stopped in the middle of an intersection we’d get ticketed for obstructing traffic too, laugh a minute is’nt it....
    Sure is. Funny thing is that its probably cheaper to hoon through the lights and get caught speeding than it is trying to be safe and going through an early orange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forest View Post
    I've been around the world, and driven in many different countries.

    In my opinion, the biggest problem with NZ isn't the enforcement of traffic laws but rather the absolutely shitty driving. Seriously, NZ has some of the worst drivers I have ever observed in first world countries.

    I don't know why this but I expect it is a consequence of many separate factors e.g. inadequate driver training, easily obtained driver licenses, cheap import vehicles, entrenched hoon culture etc
    Perhaps it's got something to do with the attitude that "The Government will look after me so why should I take responsibility for myself?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    NZ is a first-world country?
    Buahahahahahahahaha

    Tui time!
    Last I heard NZ was a fourth-world country (one that used to be first-world and has reverted to third-world).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Headbanger View Post
    Nothing wrong with having a target, There is always room for improvement. The major reductions may have already been done, But you would slightly retarded to say that's good enough, Lets just sit on it.
    I think you have an over inflated opinion of human infallibility. People make mistakes. This cannot be eliminated completely. No matter how good the education, roads etc. there will still be accidents. What is retarded is to hold us to a super human standard that is simply unachievable.
    "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)

    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending to much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)

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