Concern over poor protective clothing

[Kwaka-Kid]

bah leave the dude on the FXR alone aiight!.

you know what.. heres a new view... i dont care about my body, well thats not new, HOWEVER, if i choose not to wear protective clothing, then i aint affecting anybody else, infact i mmore likly to ride slower as i dont feel as safe!

secondly not wearing it could be a plus to another driver/pedestrian.. if i hit a ped with my body we both get hurt.. if i hit a ped with my body behind a nice big steelcapped etc boot or somthing i will break his leg.. my body hitting another is bound to be softer to them then with hard outta plastic shells etc.  and like i said, when i wear leathers, i feel invincible.. this might be my own personal problem.. but then again there might be a few more of me out there then you think...

and hey, there are all sorts of idiots out there slashing their wrists etc etc, go harp on to them, they are doing things intentionally to get hurt.. i do this to limit myself as i realise there aint much but skin between my bones and that road ride safe and happy dudes!

[Antallica]

Man it does feel good when wearing sweet nothing mind you

We all know your clothing style KK!



I'll remove this if it's too rudey

[curious george]

HOWEVER, if i choose not to wear protective clothing, then i aint affecting anybody else, infact i mmore likly to ride slower as i dont feel as safe!

*sigh*
You do affect other people. Family, friends, the guy who has to scrape you off the road.
It also keeps me awake on night shift when I have to fix your
broken ass
We probably average 1-2 serious crashes a week at Auckland Hospital, and about 99.9% were: riding in T-shirts, jeans and sneakers. This makes it easy to cut their clothes off, but thats about it.
Some were stoned/drunk and also had no proper clothes.
I guess it's like Darwin's natural selection theory is working, but we tend to squew the results by fixing these people so they can go and do it again.

*ends rant, lightens up, and goes for a ride *

[bikerboy]

You said it George !

Besides PIP, the more serious the injuries the more cost to fix and more excuses to raise OUR acc levies.

It's attitudes like your's that created the nanny state. If people used their heads for more than a hat rack, governments would not feel the need to pass laws to protect you from yourself, with the rest of us suffering the extreme of their actions along side you!

[Coldkiwi]

Originally posted by Kwaka-Kid


you know what.. heres a new view... i dont care about my body,

HOWEVER, if i choose not to wear protective clothing, then i aint affecting anybody else, infact i mmore likly to ride slower as i dont feel as safe!

if i hit a ped with my body behind a nice big steelcapped etc boot or somthing i will break his leg.. my body hitting another is bound to be softer to them then with hard outta plastic shells etc.  and like i said, when i wear leathers, i feel invincible.. this might be my own personal problem..


i do this to limit myself as i realise there aint much but skin between my bones and that road

logan, to be blunt, this is some of the stupidest sh*t you've ever posted.

working in a hospital, you should bloody well know better and have even less of an excuse over ignorance than all the idiots that come in under protected (they're idiots for not wearing the right gear whether or not the accident was their fault).

does a wire brush and iodine on your open bleeding flesh sound fun? If you don't care about your body (its not bravado to be a sucker for serious injuries) then you need to get your priorities in life sorted out.

listen to your mates while you have the choice (you won't be able to make them go away when you're lying immobilised on a drip in the ICU).

[PZR]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kwaka-Kid
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it takes every punishment ive given it so far and without ever going to hospital etc its repaired itself the way god made it to   o-natural styles   

You just HAVE to be younger than 35. I think everyone over that age soon works out that your body does not fix it's self like it used to and christ its hard (as in more difficult, for those of you with impure thoughts) when getting out of bed some mornings

[Antallica]

We could all just buy cups and use them, much cheaper to save the jewels with

[jrandom]

Originally posted by Kwaka-Kid
i dont care about my body, well thats not new, HOWEVER, if i choose not to wear protective clothing, then i aint affecting anybody else, infact i mmore likly to ride slower as i dont feel as safe!

Jeeeeeezus, KK, you're putting yourself firmly into the bucket with the fools I ranted about over in the 'fatility' thread.

*How* much tax do you think I pay every year? And do you think I want the already-too-small portion of it that goes on public healthcare used to patch up your sorry arse after you grate the skin off it because leather trousers and CE armour were too uncomfortable?

So long as you promise to drag yourself home on your elbows after you regain consciousness on the side of the road, and then use your mighty regenerative powers to heal on your bedroom floor, be my guest.

I suspect you might not want to do that, though.

[WanaGo]

I just got me a jacket! Ive ridden long enuf without gear, and im making a start. Been about 4 weeks now since Ive had my first bike, wearing a polarflece and 3 layers of clothing, and some cheap leather gloves.

Just got me a Orina jacket, with medium armor, just elbow, sholders, a back pad and whatnot. Has removable inner etc for summer.

The stories from this set of posts made me go get it!

Saving up for pants now, same set.

Thanks for the insentive guys

WanaGo

[Kwaka-Kid]

ok firstlly, I JUST BOUGHT A VFR400 NC24 with 16,500kms!

secondly, aiight sorry about all the shit.. and i did actually believe in it! but fuck that about those dudes nuts! fuck that shit man, do they sell a box or somthing @ bike shops? thats fucking scary, id rather be dead then have that shit happen! alright, i might buy pants oneday.

eww man, thats sick.

and thirdly, i dont use hospital care, or have never yet, i just get beaten by old man and learn lesson not to fall off hahaha! no but really, i just get my sorry ass home and go hard on the panadol and say, feck feck feck, but i aint gunna see no doc so dont worry, i didnt put ur ACC levies up, and i have a clean record for accidents.

and if you think none of my crashs have been serious enuf, then fair enuf, thats prolly true, but when they are, ill still do my best to save your money and stay out/away from a hospital etc.  saves money all around and maybe ill learn.. well, maybe not too but thats my personal choice

hehehe, cheers dudes, and  yeah i spose  ishould wear more, but jeans is pretty good, rode from matamata on new bike in jeans, boots, jacket, gloves helmet, only to be overtaken by a dude wearing sandshoes, windbreaker, and NO GLOVES! (i honestly admit  icant ride without gloves, it feels icky) on a blue firestorm.. anyone here?

anyways must go ride the new bike, laters. - IVE NEVER HAD SUCH A GREAT BIKE! fucking MINT! just 16" front rim feels fast turning.

[Lou Girardin]

Apart from the fact that ACC use injury costs to beat us to death with, I don't give a fat rats arse what other people wear or don't wear.
We are becoming the worlds biggest nanny state and the pollies are even talking about a fat tax and couch potato tax because we're getting obese. We're losing the freedom to live our lives as WE want.
There was a good point made about risk factors and vulnerability though, I heard one road safety expert say that the best safety device to improve driving behaviour is a 150mm steel spike in the middle of the steering wheel.
Lou

[bikerboy]

A big hand to Wannago for doing the smart thing.

Congratulations PIP on the WORKING/RIDEABLE bike!!!

Now I don't want to read and posts about customizing this thing to pieces duded!!!!!

[RiceBurner]

Originally posted by Lou Girardin
Apart from the fact that ACC use injury costs to beat us to death with, I don't give a fat rats arse what other people wear or don't wear.
We are becoming the worlds biggest nanny state and the pollies are even talking about a fat tax and couch potato tax because we're getting obese. We're losing the freedom to live our lives as WE want.
There was a good point made about risk factors and vulnerability though, I heard one road safety expert say that the best safety device to improve driving behaviour is a 150mm steel spike in the middle of the steering wheel.
Lou

Bog off!! Try living in the UK if you're worried about the "Nanny State"!


Re the Steel spike - that's a commonly held view amongst a lot of police and accident investigators.

Problem is : Governments don't want to spend money on training people to drive better (cos they're tight gits) - so they chase road safety improvement by making car manufacturers make "safer" cars. Problem with safer cars is that they (imo) lead to more careless drivers - which leads to more accidents. But that's fine, because the safer cars mean no-one gets hurt....... yeah right.

[Big Dog]

Originally posted by Kwaka-Kid
bah leave the dude on the FXR alone aiight!.

secondly not wearing it could be a plus to another driver/pedestrian.. if i hit a ped with my body we both get hurt.. if i hit a ped with my body behind a nice big steelcapped etc boot or somthing i will break his leg.. my body hitting another is bound to be softer to them then with hard outta plastic shells etc.  and like i said, when i wear leathers, i feel invincible.. this might be my own personal problem.. but then again there might be a few more of me out there then you think...

We have seen your build kk I could get away with that excuse given all my spare padding but I ask you this.

If you were hit by a katana (samurai sword not the bike) would you prefer scabbard on or scabbard off?

And you disappear in profile just like a katana.... lol

[Big Dog]

Originally posted by WanaGo
I just got me a jacket
WanaGo

Way to go WanaGo

See KK us "old fuddy duddies" havn't just wasted our time with this thread. Perhaps you too have played your part by showing the idiocy of the argument against good gear.

Good gear Will not always save a life or even minimise injury but a good chance is better than none.