Why the WRB campaign is going nowhere.

[FJRider]

And if she had gone into a cheesecutter as a result of her meeting with deliberately left unmarked gravel, who would still be thinking those fucken things are a good thing?
The whole point of our problem with cc is that there are numerous reasons for anyone colliding with them, yes - including being a dick (no sympathy there) - but innocent, unfortunate riders don't deserve that fate. We know there are many other ways for that fate to occur and we are just as vocal about them. It's just that cc is a static and obvious target for the safety-minded amongst us.

"Cheesecutters", in downtown Turangi.... ???? DONT THINK SO !!!!

[yungatart]

Katman, given all the national publicity about cheesecutters over the last few days, do you still say our campaign is going nowhere?

[imdying]

Katman, given all the national publicity about cheesecutters over the last few days, do you still say our campaign is going nowhere?

Stood up and took a quick poll of the office (10 here at the moment)... none knew what I was talking about. Sounds like it's going well

[Nasty]

Stood up and took a quick poll of the office (10 here at the moment)... none knew what I was talking about. Sounds like it's going well

Did the same here and everyone know ... maybe you haven't helped to raise awareness?

[MSTRS:Me]

"Cheesecutters", in downtown Turangi.... ???? DONT THINK SO !!!!

So? If cc are where 'it' happens, they will likely be a factor in the aftermath.

Stood up and took a quick poll of the office (10 here at the moment)... none knew what I was talking about. Sounds like it's going well

And as a dedicated, committed and safety-conscious biker...whose fault is that?

[The Lone Rider]

He's not the full quid mate, he will learn about life one day, maybe... same goes for the darft post of Imdieing's poles are a problem, true but lets just start with the more basic and something that will be taken serious like the WRB's telegraph poles LMFAO.

It's ok - cowards have more to prove.

So I beg you Darryl, when you get a working bike... DON'T slow down.

[Colapop]

When I read the first post of this thread, my immediate thougfht was that the writer was/is obviously a cynical antagonist aiming for a bite. Unfortunately his sentiments have been confirmed by at least one idiot in Dunedin.

[MSTRS:Me]

When I read the first post of this thread, my immediate thougfht was that the writer was/is obviously a cynical antagonist aiming for a bite. Unfortunately his sentiments have been confirmed by at least one idiot in Dunedin.

He is. The really unfortunate thing is that 1 idiot is just that...1.

[imdying]

Did the same here and everyone know ... maybe you haven't helped to raise awareness?

Nothing to raise awareness on imho.

And as a dedicated, committed and safety-conscious biker...whose fault is that?

Only concentrating on making them aware of the true safety issues sorry.

[CookMySock]

grumble, too many good points to agree with them all, and too many great sayings to green everyone on, and too many pages to read about everyone agreeing with everyone else.

So we ALL AGREE that we are AGAINST cheese cutters ? Katman as well ?

So we ALL AGREE that when bikers misbehave they die ?

Do we ALL AGREE that we will never misbehave again ?

So whats next ? Run a poll ? On what topic ? Then what do we DO about it, whatever "it" is ? Discussing it on an Internet Forum is Talk on the Cereal box - CheeseCutter campaign is out there walking the talk - what is this campaign called, and what is its' next step ?


DB

[Katman]

So we ALL AGREE that we are AGAINST cheese cutters ? Katman as well ?

No, I'm not against the WRB's. I believe the anti-WRB lobby needs to pull back from demanding their removal and concentrate on requesting that they be modified to make them safer.

[Mom]

CheeseCutter campaign is out there walking the talk - what is this campaign called, and what is its' next step ?
DB

The campaign is called

Cheesecutter Campaign Group - safer barriers for all road users.

Next step is to gather up all the petition signatures that were generated by these latest awareness rides and the subsequent publicity, count them into the tally, and continue to encourage people to sign. We have electrostatic stickers available to people to display on their bikes/cars etc. Flick me a PM if you want one.

Have a look at www.cheesecutter.co.nz it has a heap of information on it.

Actively encourage people to write to their MP's, Transit NZ, appropriate Ministers of Paliament and their opposition counterparts, requesting them to look into the road barrier issue. Letters to newspaper editors are also encouraged. We have gathered a bit of momentum in the past week or so, it would be a shame to see it slow down.

Approaches to other road user groups that are also vulnerable to these WRMB's like Heavy Transport Industry, Tour Bus companies, sports car enthusiasts to encourage them to join up with the push. This is not just a motorcycle thing, it is just that we are particularly vulnerable to the slicing effects of the ropes and posts.

[madandy]

That could work...
There are those things that cover the posts and fill the gap between the ground and the wires.
I still don't like the wires but the Katman has a valid point.

Edit: Thanks Mom.
I have started posting links and info on some car club forums I frequent.

[Mom]

No, I'm not against the WRB's. I believe the anti-WRB lobby need to pull back from demanding their removal and concentrate on requesting that they be modified to make them safer.

If you read what the petition is actually asking for, it clearly says a moratorium on the further installation of these things until a full safety investigation is completed. There is no request to have them removed or anything else.

I paste it here for everyones information and clarification.

We, the undersigned, are concerned about the safety of wire traffic barriers and their increasing presence on New Zealand roads and highways. We urge Transit New Zealand, Land Transport New Zealand and the Ministry of Transport to place a moratorium on the use of such barriers until a comprehensive review is undertaken into the effectiveness and safety of wire traffic barriers to all road users, particularly motorcyclists.

[Katman]

If you read what the petition is actually asking for, it clearly says a moratorium on the further installation of these things until a full safety investigation is completed. There is no request to have them removed or anything else.

I paste it here for everyones information and clarification.

We, the undersigned, are concerned about the safety of wire traffic barriers and their increasing presence on New Zealand roads and highways. We urge Transit New Zealand, Land Transport New Zealand and the Ministry of Transport to place a moratorium on the use of such barriers until a comprehensive review is undertaken into the effectiveness and safety of wire traffic barriers to all road users, particularly motorcyclists.

And you will find my name (signed online months ago) on that petition.

It's all the foaming at the mouth that's being displayed that sets my teeth on edge.