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    Quote Originally Posted by skidMark View Post
    I have that effect.

    the world loves me.
    Nice to see your on ya toes though !!!
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    Wow, this cerntainly took off in a direction I hadn't anticipated.

    The problem with text only conversation is that 93% of the time it will be misinterpreted and taken out of context.

    I know I said I rode off with a whole new hatred for Cagers, I think in refelction that may have been a bit to strong, yes i do still drive a car (the wifes now and one at work occaisionaly) I was just venting, I was pretty pissed that no one who wittnessed the cash stopped to help.

    I am fully aware about the "assume they wont see you" thing the instructor at the BSC drummed that into us.

    I will continue to ride with an ever increasing awareness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    I haven't signed up for that, have I?

    Wanna go halves on a baby?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidMark View Post
    Wanna go halves on a baby?
    Why not - I've never been able to eat a whole one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by View Post
    I was just venting, I was pretty pissed that no one who wittnessed the cash stopped to help.

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    Now there's a bloody thought !!!
    Just carry a wad of cash on yr tank held by a magnet or something that will release in a bin and everyone will stop !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyke View Post
    Well I think I need a bike like steams old death machine for some street cred!
    Death Machine! Cor blimey, the praise will go to it's head, it's only a 250!
    Death Machine Two is in the early stages of creation. At the moment it's just black.

    To you guys below, I read somewhere that some agency did statistics in some country somewhere, and found fluoro vests maybe reduced near-misses by 19%. But I don't know where I read that or how big or good the study was.

    The best defence is good riding skills, a sixth-sense, and prayer.

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    Does wearing Hi-vis actually help, in this case it seems not?
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    Is there any point in wearing Hi-vis gear,
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    Quite debateable. A recent incident proved otherwise.
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    High vis gear won't prevent you from being hit but it will increase the chances of your being seen and therefore reduce the probability of your being hit.
    Quote Originally Posted by XP@ View Post
    My experience leads me to believe Hiviz jackets tend to aggravate drivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    There have been times I have been tempted to run down bikers wearing fluoro jackets. Does this make me a bad person?
    You're gonna get along just fine in the US...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Why not - I've never been able to eat a whole one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steam View Post
    I read somewhere that some agency did statistics in some country somewhere, and found fluoro vests maybe reduced near-misses by 19%. But I don't know where I read that or how big or good the study was.
    I think it came out that it's quite possible that those wearing the vests were the type to be less likely to get themselves into trouble, with or without vests. Possible another example of confused causality.

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    The best defence is good riding skills, a sixth-sense, and prayer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidMark View Post
    #1 rule of motorcycling.

    Treat every other road user like they are out to kill you.
    This I must agree with.

    Quote Originally Posted by skidMark View Post
    Because they are.
    However, this I must take issue with.

    If every other road user was out to kill motorcyclists we'd all have been killed long ago.

    An infinitesimal number of road users (if any) go out with the express purpose of causing carnage. To believe that we are simply targets for cars and such is to promulgate an "us and them" mentality that does nothing to improve our lot or theirs. When it all comes down to it we (bikers, cagers, truckies etc...) are all road users and must share the road in good faith.
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    "but the whole time ya got to think (where to go if it goes wrong and the prick pulls out)" I kinda agree with Sinfull here. Whilst it is true that the odd unavoidable situation will crop up, most situations are avoidable if you work ahead. I am ALWAYS aware of what COULD happen and am ALWAYS looking for an escape route. It is called defensive riding. The worst crash I ever had was caused by some old fart driving into me when he was turning right and I was going straight. But it wouldn't happen now, because I would be looking at him and I would see he wasn't looking at me and would therefore be prepared to avoid....Rule 1. Look at the driver, not the vehicle. If he ain't lookin' at you BEWARE and BE PREPARED! We are the vulnerable ones and it serves us well to be trebly alert when on the bike. We have better vision than the car driver. Exploit this advantage. We can increase our chances by using the advantages we have and by being ALERT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by slofox View Post
    "but the whole time ya got to think (where to go if it goes wrong and the prick pulls out)" I kinda agree with Sinfull here. Whilst it is true that the odd unavoidable situation will crop up, most situations are avoidable if you work ahead. I am ALWAYS aware of what COULD happen and am ALWAYS looking for an escape route. It is called defensive riding. The worst crash I ever had was caused by some old fart driving into me when he was turning right and I was going straight. But it wouldn't happen now, because I would be looking at him and I would see he wasn't looking at me and would therefore be prepared to avoid....Rule 1. Look at the driver, not the vehicle. If he ain't lookin' at you BEWARE and BE PREPARED! We are the vulnerable ones and it serves us well to be trebly alert when on the bike. We have better vision than the car driver. Exploit this advantage. We can increase our chances by using the advantages we have and by being ALERT!
    thats what i do as well. as a result, my heart is in my mouth 90% of the time when riding in town. so many cagers arent looking, or they come up to the intersection, but dont stop completly and keep rolling.

    the only time ive been hit, i was watching the driver as best i could. traffic was heavy in all directions, and i figured shed have the smarts to not go. she went. nothing could have prevented that, as there was no where for me to go, except oncoming traffic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slofox View Post
    [I] We have better vision than the car driver. Exploit this advantage.
    A few say this. But IMO it just isn't so. True, we don't have pillars creating blind spots, but we don't have the unfettered head movement possible in a car.
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Lets all start waving to people in cars. They may beleive we're changing our attitudes, deserve to live, share the roads with them and they may sympathise with the cheesecutter camapaign.

    really. forgive them their trespasses and get proactive.

    Quote Originally Posted by tigertim20 View Post
    etiquette? treat it like every other vehicle on the road, assume they are a blind, ignorant brainless cunt who is out to kill you, and ride accordingly

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    Quote Originally Posted by madandy View Post
    Lets all start waving to people in cars. ...
    I do. Just sometimes though, I don't seem to be able to unfold all my fingers...
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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