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    Sigh. You can tell he's from Glasgow.
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    you can use the whole road on left handers - it doesn't matter if your body is leaning over the left hand gutter. On the right handers if you use the whole road your body will be over the centre line.

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    Y' reckon! Tell me that after you've taken out one of those damn posts they have leaning out into the road! With y' shoulder.
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
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    yeah I feel much more comfortable in left-handers. I can get past it fairly quickly and then I'm fine. I might measure my chicken strips to see if they are actually any different or if this is just in my head. The left side strip should be narrower.

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    leaning left

    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    yeah I feel much more comfortable in left-handers. I can get past it fairly quickly and then I'm fine. I might measure my chicken strips to see if they are actually any different or if this is just in my head. The left side strip should be narrower.

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    Checked mine -no significant chicken strips either side but def more wear on the left. bloody irritating but can't get as comfortable on rt turns. Would track days help?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    I might measure my chicken strips to see if they are actually any different or if this is just in my head. The left side strip should be narrower.

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    I always felt more comfortable on LH turns. I practiced more RH circuits in the dirt, to work on it. I still feel more comfortable going left, but the Buell's tyres clearly show more wear to the right.

    To be honest, in the dirt I always put it down to what the feet are doing, and my RH foot is often on the brake going into a turn, so not available so much for balance.

    'Course, I could be wrong...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    I always felt more comfortable on LH turns. I practiced more RH circuits in the dirt, to work on it. I still feel more comfortable going left, but the Buell's tyres clearly show more wear to the right.

    To be honest, in the dirt I always put it down to what the feet are doing, and my RH foot is often on the brake going into a turn, so not available so much for balance.

    'Course, I could be wrong...

    more wear to right of a bike tyre than to left.....road camber....

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    I m ambidextrous, I can kick with both feet, play golf (badly) both sides, box orthodox or southpaw.

    I am also psychologically centre brained IE: neither side is dominant.

    I still found a slight differential in left or right handers on my bike, I think it is the timing of the push pull counter steering and application of engine power combined with the situation you are in at the time.

    In other words it is a skill development in the coordination of everything with the distinct difference between the two sides being the throttle.(IMHO)

    You just have to learn to master it, you know when you get it right, it feels so good and when you get it wrong!

    There are so many things to scan, program and action when riding a bike, that's what is so appealing and keeps us coming back for more and more.

    We just never get tired of it and we are always seeking the perfect execution of every move we make on our bikes.

    I think it must be similar to an orgasm or a drug junkies high, once experienced, you can only remember how good it felt rather than what it actually felt like, until you feel it again!

    Some times you get it right, sometimes you just can't find the rhythm, no matter how hard you try!

    Good days and crap days, I think we all have them! That's the constant challenge!

    Just my humble opinion, FWW. Cheers John.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    I m ambidextrous, I can kick with both feet, play golf (badly) both sides, box orthodox or southpaw.

    I am also psychologically centre brained IE: neither side is dominant.

    I still found a slight differential in left or right handers on my bike, I think it is the timing of the push pull counter steering and application of engine power combined with the situation you are in at the time.

    In other words it is a skill development in the coordination of everything with the distinct difference between the two sides being the throttle.(IMHO)

    You just have to learn to master it, you know when you get it right, it feels so good and when you get it wrong!

    There are so many things to scan, program and action when riding a bike, that's what is so appealing and keeps us coming back for more and more.

    We just never get tired of it and we are always seeking the perfect execution of every move we make on our bikes.

    I think it must be similar to an orgasm or a drug junkies high, once experienced, you can only remember how good it felt rather than what it actually felt like, until you feel it again!

    Some times you get it right, sometimes you just can't find the rhythm, no matter how hard you try!

    Good days and crap days, I think we all have them! That's the constant challenge!

    Just my humble opinion, FWW. Cheers John.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    Y' reckon! Tell me that after you've taken out one of those damn posts they have leaning out into the road! With y' shoulder.
    Yeah not always obviously - but most of the time you can at least put your tyres next to the left hand road edge. Better then leaning into the other lane

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    i suppose road camber could come into it? generally when cornering to the right the road is off camber..... I reckon get to a track and get used to both sides!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MVnut View Post
    You'll find that people who ride on the other side of the road to us have more problem with leaning into the lefthanders. I suspect it's got nothing to do with throttle hand etc, more like a sense of 'relaxation' when not leaning into the traffic, so to speak, so they are happier leaning further on one side than the other......me I don't really care, I like rights and lefts, but I'm not normal (everyone tells me this anyway)
    If that's true then why do 9/10ths of riders I see having a weekend fang have most of their body and bike well on the wrong side of the road at the apex of a right hand corner?

    If I'm in the car with the family heading to the Wairarapa of a weekend I know I will have to make at least one violent swerve to avoid a helmet shaped dent at about headlight level.

    I'm with Ixion and oldrider on this one. Too much stuff going on at once, in particular a combination of gross and fine motor control that many people don't ever have to master or think about.

    If you want to work on teaching your brain to master combinations of fine and gross motor skills take up a bowed instrument, the piano, or drums ($25 an hour).
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    I couldn't tell you what the reasons are - but most likely there are many.

    However - on the track mind you - I have found that I have a much easier time wearing our my left knee sliders than my right ones.

    Plenty of posts in this thread have already covered a wide variety of possible reasons - personally I think it is a combination of all of them.

    When you start scraping your pegs on either side - hang off some more.
    If you can't scrape your pegs on either side - get some proper tyres.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MVnut View Post
    You'll find that people who ride on the other side of the road to us have more problem with leaning into the lefthanders. I suspect it's got nothing to do with throttle hand etc, more like a sense of 'relaxation' when not leaning into the traffic, so to speak, so they are happier leaning further on one side than the other......me I don't really care, I like rights and lefts, but I'm not normal (everyone tells me this anyway)
    I find that I feel less comfortable on left handers too.
    Must be the Yankee bike.

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    I am more at ease leaning to the left for some strange reason, weird init!

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