Is this for real or just photoshop?? 09 VFR1000

[vifferman]

I think the red bike is a 07+ ZX6R that has been photoshopped.

Nup.
Handlebars, footpegs, tank, seat, part of the frame, mirrors, screen all look like they're based on the VTec model. The forks and wheels - who knows?
The tailsection doesn't come from any 'real' bike.

Or are you talking about the red bike in the first post? That's an amalgamation of CBR and VFR bits, apart from the wheels, which could be Carrozeria.

[zeocen]

Isn't the new hypothetical V5 meant to replace both the VFR and Blackbird? If so, that photoshopped bike at the top looks nothing like either.

[vifferman]

Isn't the new hypothetical V5 meant to replace both the VFR and Blackbird? If so, that photoshopped bike at the top looks nothing like either.

One would hope not.
Wouldn't one?
If one had hope.
Which one does, even though one is most unlikely to buy one, if one decided one wanted one.

However (but!) a replacement VFRbird would be a sprotstourer, so it wouldn't look like that first picture, which is too CBR-like.
That one looks like it'd break if you stuck a pillion and three bags on it.

[Coyote]

The VFR800 SSSA and hub has to be the least attractive of them all.

The swingarm to me doesn't seem so bad. Though I agree about the hub. I think the wheel looks good.

As I was looking through google images to refresh my memory on what a VFR800 swingarm looks like, I came across this: http://thekneeslider.com/archives/20...-honda-vfr800/

Seeing that I'd be keen to get a damaged 800 and streetfighterise it. The engine just shouldn't be hidden.

[vifferman]

I came across this: http://thekneeslider.com/archives/20...-honda-vfr800/

I hope you wiped it clean afterwards.....

Dan's now made a commercial prototype with some improvements, including more power! It's a bit pricey though - US$5k-6k IIRC.
Still, it is beautifully made, with lots of CNC'd parts.

Compared to MV, Ducati, Benelli, and Triumph swingarms, the Honda one is not a looker.

[Coyote]

I hope you wiped it clean afterwards.....

Dan's now made a commercial prototype with some improvements, including more power! It's a bit pricey though - US$5k-6k IIRC.
Still, it is beautifully made, with lots of CNC'd parts.

Compared to MV, Ducati, Benelli, and Triumph swingarms, the Honda one is not a looker.

I noticed the pun when I saw the quote notification and thought "oh dear...".

Cor. But I guess that's how much this type of thing costs. The Muzzy 500hp turbo kit for the ZX10R is $9000US (it's at the top of the 'when I win lotto' list).

That's true. Honda has always been a "we'll tell you what you like" kinda company though hasn't it?

[Taz]

If that is true.... I'd be into one of them. would love to own another 1000cc honda V4 sportsbike. Been a while since my last one.

[BIHB@0610]

It's not real - it came off a French website (motorevue.com) and some guy on an american website (vfrworld.com) translated the text that went along with the photo ....

Started looking at Jays picture and found the french web site where this picture originated, took me 30 minutes to learn how to make my computer translate french and the translation is a little rough but I thought this was interesting...

Honda VFR 1000
VFR 1000: the return to the roots

What can one reproach the VFR 800 V-tec well? Certainly not its rigour. Then, for 2008, Honda could approach the original spirit of its motor bike launched in 1998 and reinforce the links which then linked it with the competition.

Honda VFR 1000

Admittedly, the last years saw the reinforced road qualities and the performances of the VFR. The last evolution of the motor bike, which embarks variable distribution V-tec and ABS since 2001, is not made to dominate the comparative ones and to attract comments praising the rigour of its design. And it is justified: the VFR, except a lack of imagination to control, does not deserve that praises so much the homogeneity of its behavior is obvious. Then, to approach its initial spirit today, Honda could reposition its motor bike towards more sportivity. Wasn't the VFR in other time a cousin close to the RC 30 and another RC 45, which has to offer her 4-cyclindres out of V before disappearing? Yes, the VFR over the years is more geared toward touring and not involved in the sporting crenel, leaving this noble task to the CBR 1000 RR.

Without anything to change with the bases of its motor bike, Honda could thus soon reveal a mounting whose V4, more generous of cubic capacity, would propose an exploitation definitely more sporting. One questions oneself then as for the utility of the variable distribution, more inclined to meet needs specific to the road motor bikes. One likes to imagine a machine comfortably accumulating the miles, but especially all been willing to stimulate the Egro's by the power and the neat character of his mechanics. ABS would not be quite obvious step called into question, but one would appreciate the arrival of a radial device, just like that of an entirely adjustable reversed fork. Side line, the austerity of the current model has its place with a more dynamic reinterpretation, consequently approaching the spirit inspired by the CBR 1000 RR. A return to the root's and in force.

[vifferman]

This sounds promising, even if it is just mostly speculative:

"We first wrote about the 2009 Honda VFR1000 in August last year. Now, according to a report on Motociclismo, Honda are finally ready with their brand-new VFR1000, which will replace the ageing VFR800 and the erstwhile CBR1100XX Super Blackbird. And according to the report, the VFR1000 will be ready by September this year!

The 2009 VFR1000 will be fitted with 1,000cc V5, which would be an evolution of the five-cylinder, 990cc RC211V engine. No, the VFR1000 will not be anything like the Desmosedici RR. The Honda will still be a sports-tourer, albeit an extremely fast and high-tech one.

The VFR1000’s V5 engine will share its basic architecture – three cylinders facing the front, two facing the rear – with the RC211V MotoGP machine. Honda have been working on the new VFR for the last five years, and everything they’ve learnt with the RC211V is likely to be put to good use on their first V5-powered streetbike.

The V5 Honda VFR1000 project is, according to Motociclismo, being led by Yoshiteru Kinoshita, who’s working with engineers from HRC as well as the team that worked on creating the 2008 CBR1000RR. The aim, it seems, is to build a bike that features absolutely unparalleled electronics, braking, engine and chassis technologies. And knowing Honda, they’ll probably pull it off too. Now all we have to do is somehow wait till September…"