Beliefs on the afterlife

**candor** · 12th July 2008, 23:29

In times of grief I can and will strongly believe in an afterlife as it is my deepest wish to see them again. This desire fades with the grief which fades with the memories - the memories you add to your grief with by struggling to cling to.

I believe in a limited afterlife in that it may take some spirits a while to dissolve in which time contact may be made - or even some of their personal essence may be absorbed by others if the world still needs it - their future influence.

For myself I'd hope for afterlife merely so as to be with loved ones again. But I think it prolly does not exist if being perfectly rational. Not in the way of continuing as a personal entity. I think it exists in that your life energy is added back into the pool like compost for recycling. An afterlife exists in legacies good or bad.

It would be beter if noone believed in afterlife for the sake of a better society. People would realise that if heaven or punishment does not come later they'd best get on and live spiritually and create a heaven on earth.

This isn't my original theory but really aligns with the jist of gnostic christian scriptures such as dead sea scrolls, and probably aligns best with my core belief system. So my answer is both yes and no and within gnostic belief that is no contradiction. All things can be reconciled.

**DMNTD:Me** · 12th July 2008, 23:38

What happens? Dunno...don't care either as I'm too busy living the now and near future.
I mean why burden one's self with "maybes"?
Life's short...have fun...remove any stresses(if at all possible) and own and thrash as many bikes as possible!

**1 Free Man** · 13th July 2008, 20:38

Originally Posted by Sanx

Well my wife has decided that in her next life, she wants to come back as a higher species.

She's a woman aint she? I though they were the higher species??

**avgas** · 13th July 2008, 20:49

I fear death, not because of what i do not know what happens next, but purely because i know that death means that i can no longer complete my goals alive.
However with that said (it is what i believe), i also believe in second chances - so the next obvious thing i know is reincarnation.
Don't ask me what type of reincarnation - i haven't got that far yet.

**cowboyz** · 13th July 2008, 20:55

its a panda. trust me on this one. Ive seen it on tv.

**avgas** · 13th July 2008, 20:58

Originally Posted by cowboyz

its a panda. trust me on this one. Ive seen it on tv.

Well fuck dying if you only get shit beer

**Ixion** · 13th July 2008, 20:59

I ain't coming back as no panda. Their sex life stinks.

**James Deuce** · 13th July 2008, 21:02

Life really is shit and then you die. The part of the world you are born in literally determines just how much of a shit farmer you'll have to be and for how long. Which really means the more shit the shorter and more brutal the life.

The measure of a life lived well is whether or not you made it less shit for anyone else, not how many brownie points you racked up with your imaginary friend.

**rottiguy** · 13th July 2008, 21:20

Yep that is exactly how religion gets a foothold on people, when they are at their most vulnerable and asking "why has this happened" in swings some god botherer and says it's all in gods plan and don't worry cause they are in a better place, twat twat etc... and people grasping at straws think well maybe there is something else cause it just can't be all over when you die....Just wishfull thinking I'm afraid.

one of the ways that religions manage to capture the poor down-trodden vote, they tell them not to worry cause even though your life is complete shit now, when you die it will be all better and you will have everything you want.

Originally Posted by candor

In times of grief I can and will strongly believe in an afterlife as it is my deepest wish to see them again. This desire fades with the grief which fades with the memories - the memories you add to your grief with by struggling to cling to.

It would be beter if noone believed in afterlife for the sake of a better society. People would realise that if heaven or punishment does not come later they'd best get on and live spiritually and create a heaven on earth.

This isn't my original theory but really aligns with the jist of gnostic christian scriptures such as dead sea scrolls, and probably aligns best with my core belief system. So my answer is both yes and no and within gnostic belief that is no contradiction. All things can be reconciled.

**oldrider** · 13th July 2008, 21:32

Prior to my conception I knew not of life.(or anything else for that matter)

The opportunities that life has presented have been phenomenal and in the main, extremely enjoyable!

I know a little "about" death but nothing "of" death and accept only that it is inevitable and unavoidable.

Comparatively, I do sometimes wonder just what opportunities death may present but as with conception, I simply prefer to be surprised.

For now, I shall continue to enjoy the certain known fruits of life, rather than waste my time trying to second guess the next great unknown, the fruits of death!

One of the great "fruits" of life for me, is to ride my bike!

Cheers, John.

**sinfull** · 13th July 2008, 21:42

Think life and don't dwell on the lost, (cellibrate their life, then move on) you may live long enough to see science prove one way or the other !
Focus on the ditch and you may well find yourself there !

**Edbear** · 13th July 2008, 22:44

Originally Posted by enigma51

Wait till edbear gets hold of this thread!

Who, Moi..?

Originally Posted by Number One

Yeah if you aren't resilient you wouldn't bother posting on here at all

my comment was more general than just referring to the responses to you

...this thread could probably go Scottish though

.

I'm rather surprised it hasn't...

Originally Posted by inlinefour

Thought I might do some haunting then come back as something else, just have not decided what. Maybe a hot chick with big boobs, a fine arse, hot looks, legs to die for, just so I can be a lesbian.

My issue here, is that it's that something important is missing - a small important thing, I kinda like being male....

**fire eyes** · 13th July 2008, 22:50

.. I don't believe anyone is faulting the 'live in the here and now' I completely agree that energy is beneficial channelled into in expanding our potential ... its just an open discussion about our thoughts about the 'after life' and its relevence there of, I have read some great posts in here .. and have even considered a few other possibilities through these posts that I did not before .. and I am very happy to admit that .. so awesome .. and much appreciation for that .. as for the fruit loop references ... it could have been worse! so big hugs for that to ..