Choice on 400cc motorbike?

**Dargor** · 26th July 2008, 16:04

Get a fzr400, the look cool.
As for no low range torque. Meh, who wants low revs, you should be going fast.
I got mine for $2200, good condition. You dont need to wait till you have $15k to a cool bike. And if it does break it only cost a 7th of your $15k bike.

**mark247** · 26th July 2008, 16:12

Originally Posted by Hidalgo

keep the 250, and in the meantime save some more $$ and than go for 600 or More. they have better resale than 400.
cheers

Well no not really. I paid $4000 for my 400 at the start of the year and look how much they are worth now. My mate bought an nc30 4 years ago for $4000 as well with low k's, he would of made money on his.

**mark247** · 26th July 2008, 16:14

Originally Posted by Dargor

Get a fzr400, the look cool.
As for no low range torque. Meh, who wants low revs, you should be going fast.
I got mine for $2200, good condition. You dont need to wait till you have $15k to a cool bike. And if it does break it only cost a 7th of your $15k bike.

You have to be careful with FZR400's though, their inlet valves are notorious for pulling through and loosing compression etc.. But in saying that if you get a low k's one or one that has regularly been serviced and had shims checked, you should be fine.

**bobsmith** · 26th July 2008, 16:15

Originally Posted by Patch

you're kidding right?

Unless you're a short arse pint sized peanut, go with a late 80's early 90's 6 hundy. e.g. GPZ600R etc.
Similar power etc to 400 but a crap load more comfortable.

Who wants to ride a glorified 250 anyway

Crap.....

My CBR400RRJ NC23 is about as tall as I'd ever want my bike to be... I'm on tip toes on my bike with both feet down...

**lostinflyz** · 26th July 2008, 19:22

Originally Posted by Patch

you're kidding right?

Unless you're a short arse pint sized peanut, go with a late 80's early 90's 6 hundy. e.g. GPZ600R etc.
Similar power etc to 400 but a crap load more comfortable.

Who wants to ride a glorified 250 anyway

Old 600's are tourers really. the VFR is a pint sized RC30. These are made to be uncomfortable as hell cause they were made with going like a bat outta hell in mind. Most the other 400's have a similar feel too.

All depends how you ride really though. but engine size doesn't make them a better option. (Or harleys would be the best bike on the market)

**Patch** · 27th July 2008, 10:42

Originally Posted by JeremyW

I was meaning the ZZ6600 was a poor example on your behalf.... Im not sure what 400s you are talking about but I am sure they are not 220+kg fueled and oiled.

a ZZ6600 wtf is that?

It doesn't really matter what the weight of the bike is, as all riders are not the same. Put a 20 kilo heavier rider on a lighter bike and the gross weights are not much different.

Being comfortable is about the rider not the bike. I'm too cramped on 400's and even some 600 hundys. A friend of mine can't touch the ground sitting on a TL but the SV suits him more hence why he bought one.

Its all about the rider not the bike.

**mark247** · 27th July 2008, 11:00

Originally Posted by Patch

I'm too cramped on 400's and even some 600 hundys.

Im 6 foot 2 and I dont have any pain on long trips on my nc30 at all, but in saying that, im only like 65kg =P

**geoffc** · 27th July 2008, 11:34

Hi, I haven't read through all the posts but I think that if you are up-sizing now you have your full licence, consider the range 500 to 600 cc bikes instead of 400. They don't need to rev so hard and are just better bikes on the open road. Price wise they are probably not much different. Personally I think you will end up being disappointed with a 400cc machine & wanting a change sooner than you think. I like Suzuki's SV 650 or Honda CB 500. Not high powered but light, reliable, good fun & cheap to run.

**mark247** · 27th July 2008, 11:49

Originally Posted by geoffc

Hi, I haven't read through all the posts but I think that if you are up-sizing now you have your full licence, consider the range 500 to 600 cc bikes instead of 400. They don't need to rev so hard and are just better bikes on the open road. Price wise they are probably not much different. Personally I think you will end up being disappointed with a 400cc machine & wanting a change sooner than you think. I like Suzuki's SV 650 or Honda CB 500. Not high powered but light, reliable, good fun & cheap to run.

How can you say that when a CB500 has less horsepower than pretty much all 4 cylinder 400cc bikes?

**Patch** · 27th July 2008, 11:51

Originally Posted by mark247

How can you say that when a CB500 has less horsepower than pretty much all 4 cylinder 400cc bikes?

its how it uses it.

There is life after a little 4 pot screamer.

**geoffc** · 27th July 2008, 12:03

Originally Posted by mark247

How can you say that when a CB500 has less horsepower than pretty much all 4 cylinder 400cc bikes?

Reliable, cheap, comfy, well built, good handler. Given top 5 star rating for used bikes in Britain's best selling bike mag 'Bike.' Good torque without having to rev high. Certainly there are many speeder machines but is this what Bismarck wants? Not sure.

**mark247** · 27th July 2008, 12:07

Originally Posted by geoffc

Reliable, cheap, comfy, well built, good handler. Given top 5 star rating for used bikes in Britain's best selling bike mag 'Bike.' Good torque without having to rev high. Certainly there are many speeder machines but is this what Bismarck wants? Not sure.

You are not wrong there.

But the thing is, all those attributes point towards a VFR400 as well lol.

I supposes at the end of the day it will come down to what bismarck wants, you are right, but he did state "400cc"

**bismarck** · 27th July 2008, 15:21

most of 600cc bikes has high milage of below $6K which I have to save for a while. Um...dunno 600cc would suit me or not

**lostinflyz** · 27th July 2008, 17:10

i never worry too much about the mileage of bikes. one thats done a 100000k's thats been kept to spec by someone who knows what an engine is will always be better than a bike with 20000k that sat in a garage for 10 years and was put back on the road by someone who struggles to figure out how to open a can.

but you always end up getting ones that run for a bit then die but its not usually a function of distance. its usually related to luck.