Should KiwiBiker be actively promoted?

**toads** · 12th January 2005, 11:17

Originally Posted by Celtic_Sea_lily

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=7828 Here's the link.

I like the idea of natural evolution myself. I guess it will happen eventually but, the bigger it gets the more knob heads are likely to join. I know, I know - my tolerant self revealing itself again.

I think we also have to think of the work involved for Spank Me and the fact that he does it for virtually nothing...except of course our eternal gratitude and the ocaasional donation via Pay Pal.

Yes well said CSL, I am in total agreement

**Ms Piggy** · 12th January 2005, 11:20

Originally Posted by White trash

I'm thinking that we're all big enough to look after the site and run the wankers out as we have in the past.

You'll get more people onboard, sure. There will be trollers amongst them. And people who rub others the wrong way.

Kiwi Biker. A site for all New Zealand motorcyclists.

Sez it at the top of the page you're reading and every other page on the site. Who the hell are we to not promote it to the ignorant? I've met a few people here who I now consider to be bloody good mates.

I'm all for promoting it.

Yes this is a good point Jimbolina - I wouldn't have graced most of you with my presence if I had not come across KB's.

I guess we are just a bit protective and selfish about "our precious Kiwi Biker" isn't we.

**toads** · 12th January 2005, 11:30

Originally Posted by Celtic_Sea_lily

Yes this is a good point Jimbolina - I wouldn't have graced most of you with my presence if I had not come across KB's.

I guess we are just a bit protective and selfish about "our precious Kiwi Biker" isn't we.

I agree with this to a degree, if promoting it means commercialising it, then the nature of the site would obviously change, spankme has done a wonderful service to nzbikers by running this site ad free, therein lies the difference between this site and the magazine offering to promote it. I tell people I meet about kiwibikers, and most bikers check it out at some stage, but there is a core group of people who post regularly post and socialise on kiwibikers and others that come along briefly and then go away again, so i guess our little community thing will be ok in the long term, as long as the site remains as it is, so we do all need to be supportive of spankme in order to keep it that way!

**Paul in NZ** · 12th January 2005, 11:40

Originally Posted by Jim2

Autopoiesis anyone?

Posts like this should keep most bikers out riding and away from their PC's!

Paul N

**Motu** · 12th January 2005, 11:52

Like Merv I have been a Kiwi Rider reader from the very begining,they have been and are there for the long haul,the motorcycling community as we know it now would be a lot less than without the influence of KR,John and Pete are kinda out of the picture these days,but the mag goes on,I'll continue to support them.As for active promotion of the site,I'm not keen on that,but passive is ok,just the name out there for people to come along if they feel so inclined.More people,more trolls,more dickheads,more people with knowledge we need,a 2 edged sword.Hopefully the scum will float to the surface and we can flick it off.

**MSTRS:Me** · 12th January 2005, 12:02

Originally Posted by Jim2

I don't have any issue with promoting KB, but it just doesn't need "professional" help, as thanks to Lynda Blair, all "Kiwi Bikers" are connected anyway (she DOES know everyone on two wheels).

Everyone who matters anyway, eh? says he, restraining himself from commenting as expected.

**MSTRS:Me** · 12th January 2005, 12:08

I like the casualness of the place just as it is, what with all the friendly, relaxed banter amongst the close-knit family of members. I'm for letting it evolve at it's own pace as it is doing now. When something is not broken, it's not a good idea to 'fix' it.

**crashe** · 12th January 2005, 12:28

I am only fairly newish to this site...

I actually found out about it in a "Trade Me" thread... someone was talking about motorbikes and they posted up the website... so I was nosey and found you lot...lol.... and I might say what a neat bunch of people you all are.... I have meet a few of you now...

I am not a person that buys the bike magazines, so I would not have found out about it that way ... and I wouldn't think every bike rider would be buying the bike magazines either....

Plus to advertise in the bike magazines costs quite a lot of money.....
and who will end up forking out for it when the bill comes in...
So thats another thing to consider.

**riffer** · 12th January 2005, 12:30

I make an effort to mention the site to as many motorcyclists as I can.

There are about 145 people on KB who have posted more than 200 posts. I imagine they mention it to a number of people as well.

Word of mouth works quite well, and its helped to keep this place a quite tight community.

Of course, things do have a habit of growing and eventually reaching the stage where they get a life of their own. This will happen to KB whether or not it is advertised.

Ultimately, its up to moderators to maintain the tone of the forum, and for forum members to help set the tone too.

We seem to be quite good at managing with one or two dickheads at a time, however, what would KB look like with, say, 50 dickheads posting all at once...

I wonder what would happen if we got to be as large as, say, Visordown, which, quite frankly, I find too daunting to spend too much time on. Too many threads to keep up...

But at the end of the day, we don't OWN kiwibiker. And as it says at the top, it is a site for ALL New Zealand motorcyclists, no matter what.

**riffer** · 12th January 2005, 12:33

Just to clarify...

I don't think we need to actively promote KB

But I don't think we can stop it growing once it gets to a certain point.

**Yokai** · 12th January 2005, 13:19

I vote no, but I think that it will grow... I like it, we have a good mix of people - of all types - tossers *and* cool people...

It seems to be growing by word of mouth - if it were to be actively promoted then I think that the Spankster would have some issues with the numbers, moderating etc, AND.... it would need some kind of big commercial presence.

*plink plink fizzzzzzzzzzzzzzz*

**Gixxer 4 ever** · 12th January 2005, 15:17

Originally Posted by sAsLEX

I think promotion is a good idea, but trying to keep up with the new threads coming up will start to be hard work! Will have to get a cellphone like MR's so I can check it while away from my comp!

Yes this is somethin I have noted. I work away from the desk during the day and there is so much to read at night. A great place to learn and sometimes troll but can it get to big?

Easy for me to ask as I am already benefiting from KB. I would like to meet more of the people here face to face and the shirts are good for that. I suppose the more members we have the more chance there is we will meet people when out and about. I find I can not vote here as I do not have a definite opinion yet. So with that in mind I can not see the poll result.