Speed cameras

**MaxB** · 27th July 2008, 18:22

My cage had been snapped and it is an excellent picture. Sharp as.

Bikes have 2 things on their side vs. fixed cameras. The first is that a bike has about 20% of the radar signature of a car. Why? Basically beacuse bikes have such a small frontal area and consist of more radar transparent materials eg plastics and alloy vs. steel and iron.

The second is that the inductive loop set in the road to identify the lane of the offender is calibrated for cars. You need a big mass of steel to set it off. Some bikes will and some bikes won't. Plus you may have seen bikers passing the loop on the left further reducing the effect. Note that the camera will still go off and you can still be manually identified where there are no other targets.

Personally I watch my speed around cameras because of the behaviour of drivers when they see the flash. Had some close calls.

**ozrobo** · 15th August 2008, 23:17

sweet that seems to have answered my question i guess i been lucky on the bike i still dont go crazy on em but i never been flashed in the cage its always getting me stupid 61 k rule always a crap fine

**vindy500** · 15th August 2008, 23:53

that sign which tells you how fast youre going on the thorndon exit told me i was going 9km today. my speedo must be real out....

**Forest** · 16th August 2008, 00:07

Don't forget that they have more fixed camera locations than cameras. So the camera box might not actually have a camera in it when you drive past.

**vindy500** · 16th August 2008, 00:10

Originally Posted by ozrobo

sweet that seems to have answered my question i guess i been lucky on the bike i still dont go crazy on em but i never been flashed in the cage its always getting me stupid 61 k rule always a crap fine

reckon, its only 20% over the speed limit.

**racefactory** · 16th August 2008, 09:28

well- still the question remains then.... how the hell does a fixed speed camera spot you when you are going towards it??

And what on earth is a camera van?? Never heard of it in my life- never seen one either? what do they look like? are they police cars? how are they usually parked?

I had no idea there are other cameras apart from those ones on the side of the road fixed into the ground on a pole and box..

but the biggest question is how the hell could it get you from front on?

**twotyred** · 16th August 2008, 09:33

Originally Posted by trademe900

well- still the question remains then.... how the hell does a fixed speed camera spot you when you are going towards it??

And what on earth is a camera van?? Never heard of it in my life- never seen one either? what do they look like? are they police cars? how are they usually parked?

I had no idea there are other cameras apart from those ones on the side of the road fixed into the ground on a pole and box..

but the biggest question is how the hell could it get you from front on?

Camera vans are very common in wellington,often see two or three a day myself.

**racefactory** · 16th August 2008, 09:34

never even heard of it in auckland...

**-df-** · 16th August 2008, 10:48

Originally Posted by trademe900

never even heard of it in auckland...

I see them everywhere in auckland, one is just up the road from my place once a week (a dark greeb one).

Quite often parked between PT Chev and waterview turn offs on that little downhill straight as well (a white one).

Easy to spot...if ya see a van with super dark tints with a small hole cut in the tint on the back...its a speed camera van.

**racefactory** · 16th August 2008, 11:13

shite... thanks for heads up. sneaky. are they police in the vans?

Do they only catch you if you are exceeding speed when you go right past them?

**Toaster** · 16th August 2008, 11:23

Originally Posted by Number One

I'm assuming either they have another camera in the van OR...probably more likely the man who drives it and services the camera sits there with a clipboard or some other such device and when the camera goes off he can tell it's a bike so knows to record the number plate...maybe

Yes they do. They write down the rego as you pass by.

Some camera operators I had discussions with are so sick of bikers being dickheads thinking they can "get away with it" that they will go out of their way to catch them.

The thing all riders need to remember is that if you keep speeding past cameras and flipping them off etc they will find ways to make our lives harder and harder... front plates... crackdown operations... the more you piss them off the more they will retaliate.

Look at hoons in cars, their pathetic gay wanky jap toy cars with blowdryers for exhausts have now brought about the new noise testing laws. So their own stupid actions brought about tough measures against them... and we get caught as by-catch with bike exhausts generally being louder and now the target of many a complaint to police.

**Toaster** · 16th August 2008, 11:27

Originally Posted by trademe900

well- still the question remains then.... how the hell does a fixed speed camera spot you when you are going towards it??

And what on earth is a camera van?? Never heard of it in my life- never seen one either? what do they look like? are they police cars? how are they usually parked?

I had no idea there are other cameras apart from those ones on the side of the road fixed into the ground on a pole and box..

but the biggest question is how the hell could it get you from front on?

Read my previous post mate... may help you.

They use mufti vans with tinted windows. Usually parked discreetly off to the side of a road and sometimes very hard to see until the last moment. The cameras are angled across the road and the operator can record your plate as you pass by too.

**Toaster** · 16th August 2008, 11:31

Seen them parked in the 50km/h zone in Waitoki (Kahikatea Flat Road) and also in Kaukapakapa (SH16) - both have schools and both have a high number of bikers speeding through them given they are in the middle of 100km/h zones.

Often they park very close to the speed signs too, so you have to be under 54km/h at the time you pass the sign.

And don't think that once you pass the van you are free... units also park at the other end of the zone to catch you as you leave the zone thinking you got a away with it.

My advice, be warned and slow down and put your money to better use than paying fines.... like petrol money for more rides with mates!

**nico** · 16th August 2008, 16:01

never seen one go off on a car but pleanty a cage beein photographed by the rimatex on another note, first time ive driven the cage in months and i get a stupid ticket from a dick head onka last nite has any one ever got a ticked for going through a orange light? as far as im aware orange light means Stop IF SAFE TO DO SO aparently not the way mr aninal pigy reads the road code light turnd orange just as i went through and bang dont know where he was but he was on my like a fat kid on a cup cake no way was i changing his mind either trying to reason with him was pointles what a cock i had a prety good view on cops till last night has any one else had this problem?????? was going through peton

e/lower hutt