Has any L-plater had a ticket recently for exceeding 70km/h?

[awayatc]

. The standard of driving here is fucking appalling.

Standard....? What Standard.....?

[Max Preload]

Standard....? What Standard.....?

Arrrr, ya win this round!

[captain_andrey]

I've been riding to Hutt and back every day for my first 6 months with my L plate on and never had any problems going 100. I've been pulled over twice for doing 120+ and in both cases the officer completely ignored the 70k limit. In fact I was thanked for having the L plate once and let go with a minimum fine.

[BANZAI]

Muhaha found the perfect thread for me!

YES I got the speeding ticket

I was lanesplitting busy traffic in motorway and then finally got off to offramp and it was pretty empty there so I thought yay I'm free!! and give bit too much of throttle.

It was 80k area and I did 100..

Biker cop in Honda pulled me over and I got ticket for

Not indicating properly (right and left)
Exceeding L-plate condition for 30k.

I got 25points so he gave me doing 20k over points plus lane splitting...

But $550 total is just big big money...

[CookMySock]

BANZAI, you got ticketed because you were going way to quick almost everywhere, for a sustained period of time. You ARE going to get the book thrown at you for that. It's fine to split and filter here and there, but if you are doing ALL of it continuously you invite the wrath of the fuzz, especially showing them your L plate as well..

It is perfectly feasible to travel responsibly at 100k on an L-Plate, until you misbehave.

DB

[Horse]

"A learner may not travel on roads where the posted speed limit exceeds 70kph"

As I've posted previously, if that had been the rule I wouldn't have bothered buying a motorbike until a couple of weeks before I could sit my restricted. In a small urban centre like Palmerston North not being able to travel on the open road makes a motorbike entirely pointless. I might as well buy a 50cc scooter.

So the actual impact of your proposed change would be lots of learners not actually getting any riding experience during the learner period.

For the OP: I wore my L-plate for the entirety of my learners period, and I travelled at 100km/h on the open road. Rode past lots of cops during that time and never got pulled over. If I had been I'd have eaten the $400 fine, but I'd have pointed out to the cop first that riding at 70km/h on the open road around here is not exactly promoting safety.

All the stories I've read about on KB about learners getting pinged for doing over 70km/h are people either speeding (ie exceeding 110km/h) or not wearing an L-plate or doing something else stupid, and the cop pings them for the "exceeding 70km/h as a learner" AS WELL. I don't claim that's an exhaustive survey but I think the results are suggestive.

BTW riding over 70km/h on an L plate isn't "speeding", it's "breach of the conditions of your licence". If you get done for 120km/h on an L-plate it'll be for speeding 20km/h over the limit AND breach of your licence conditions (which is the bigger fine).

[McJim]

I used to commute 26km along the southern Motorway in Auckland with an L plate on - always did 100km when able - always passed the cops - never got pinged.

I have never heard of anyone being pinged solely for 100km on a Learners although I have heard plenty of stories about people drawing uneccesary attention to themselves by No L Plate, Failure to indicate, riding like a fuckwit, running a red light etc. and then being done for Exceeding 70 on an L Licence (among all the other charges.)

[McDuck]

I even got one for speeding (as in above 100) and the cop didnt ping me for the over 70. Or the fact that i was out at 10.30. Or the fact the bike had no rego plate. Helps if you are nice to the cop....

[BANZAI]

BANZAI, you got ticketed because you were going way to quick almost everywhere, for a sustained period of time. You ARE going to get the book thrown at you for that. It's fine to split and filter here and there, but if you are doing ALL of it continuously you invite the wrath of the fuzz, especially showing them your L plate as well..

It is perfectly feasible to travel responsibly at 100k on an L-Plate, until you misbehave.

DB

All the stories I've read about on KB about learners getting pinged for doing over 70km/h are people either speeding (ie exceeding 110km/h) or not wearing an L-plate or doing something else stupid, and the cop pings them for the "exceeding 70km/h as a learner" AS WELL. I don't claim that's an exhaustive survey but I think the results are suggestive.

BTW riding over 70km/h on an L plate isn't "speeding", it's "breach of the conditions of your licence". If you get done for 120km/h on an L-plate it'll be for speeding 20km/h over the limit AND breach of your licence conditions (which is the bigger fine).

Yea exactly..
Lucky I didn't get fine for 20k over and breach of license...

[Tim 39]

I got fined $400 because of that stupid rule!

9 days before I got my restricted, I was getting along the Dunedin motorway on my XT225 that I had at the time, at 85Kph. I got pulled up and fined $400 ! 'breach of learner licence' The cop went on about how the rule is there for my safety and that I can't safely go faster than 70 because of my 'inexperience'

my 'inexperience' only consisted of racing bikes at way over twice that speed and knee sliding at twice that speed as well! jeez what do you have to do to be allowed to go 100?

[CookMySock]

I got pulled up and fined $400 ! 'breach of learner licence' [....] my 'inexperience' only consisted of racing bikes at way over twice that speed and knee sliding at twice that speed as well!

That stinks bro. Are you sure there wasn't some other heinous misdemeanor that he couldn't process you on ? Shoelace undone ? Slight smirk on face ? One square knobbly slightly rounded ?

DB

[EJK]

I got fined $400 because of that stupid rule!
9 days before I got my restricted

A weekend away for mine!

Yeah BANZAI, I got pulled over for probably the same way like you did.
Except that I got fined $400 for not having the L plate...

$550... man... Thats a BIG money....

[Sable]

I even got one for speeding (as in above 100) and the cop didnt ping me for the over 70. Or the fact that i was out at 10.30. Or the fact the bike had no rego plate. Helps if you are nice to the cop....

One and only time I've ever been pulled over was for a license check. No L-plate, no glasses (a condition of my license, although I can see fine) and worst, NO LICENSE! I'd left it on the desk at home and forgotten to put it back in me wallet. I was polite and friendly, and he didn't ping me for anything.

[skidMark]

imo, the 70kph learner limit rule is not a bad one in concept, instead of scrapping it, I would be inclined to re-word it.

ie, the problem arises from learners using 80 & 100kph zones whilst only going 70kph, change the wording to something like:

"A learner may not travel on roads where the posted speed limit exceeds 70kph"

And it's all sorted.

Yes, there's those people who bitch'n'gripe about needing to use motorway 'x' to get to work, etc, etc - FFS USE WHATEVER TRANSPORT YOU USED IN THE PAST! The learner period is only six months!

It's bad enough that fuel prices are engorging the scooter using populace with people who aren't going to give a toss about riding, now we're going to bin a law that will see them splattered all over the place at high speed when they lose control from inexperience.

What so a learner will have no open road nor motorway experiance? what an awesome idea there buddy...

[<Rhino>]

I ride the open road its the only way I can get to work, there are no 50km/h streets that link from my place all the way to work so a rule of not going on any streets >70km/h would be prohibitive to probebly most of the population who leave town for work. Don't forget outside of Auckland people do travel outside the city limits for work...often!

I have my L plate on, I don't care, I'm not going to let my pride give away $400 if I get caught. I travel at normal road speed, granted it took a while for me to feel comfortable with that and during that time when I wasn't I would and did pull over for cars to get past when it was safe for me to do so (still do on occaision in the wet etc). If it wasn't safe to bad for them I held my ground. There was occaisions where they would push past, so I would considder pulling over more often.

I have not (as yet) been pulled over for exceeding 70km/h and don't generally go much faster than 100 anyway.