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    Yeah emulators look simple enough. The original question was about cartridge valving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    Yeah emulators look simple enough. The original question was about cartridge valving.

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    What and where is your original question mate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viscount Montgomery View Post
    There's nothing 'professional' about fitting emulators to damper forks, next we'll be getting advised to pay some parasite consultant to 'setup' the job because "only the professionals are qualified for the job" or some similar shyte..

    I look forward to reading more of your constructive intelligent posts dude, Not a bad start though after 25 posts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Taylor View Post
    front fork springs that are appropriate to your personal height...
    I don't doubt your experience but I found this comment curious!? Could you please elaborate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viscount Montgomery View Post
    WTF is so mysterious and tricky about dropping a pair of race-tec gold valve emulators into a pair of damper rod forks???? Stick the emulators onto the damper rod, check they're sitting flat, bung the springs on top and screw the effing fork caps back on.

    There's nothing that much technical about refilling a sump with oil or refitting the bodywork either... but i have seen so called professional mechanics in NZ with their "she'll be right, number 8 wire, quick the rugby is on in 30 minutes" mentality make a hash of these too.

    Whoever i get to work on the insides of my suspension will be someone that takes their work very seriously and professionally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lukemillar View Post
    I don't doubt your experience but I found this comment curious!? Could you please elaborate?

    Thanks
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    TYPO mate, I think he meant to say WEIGHT- He does silly hours in the work shop and the internet
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    Quote Originally Posted by dipshit View Post
    There's nothing that much technical about refilling a sump with oil or refitting the bodywork either... but i have seen so called professional mechanics in NZ with their "she'll be right, number 8 wire, quick the rugby is on in 30 minutes" mentality make a hash of these too.

    Whoever i get to work on the insides of my suspension will be someone that takes their work very seriously and professional.

    well said Sport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lukemillar View Post
    I don't doubt your experience but I found this comment curious!? Could you please elaborate?
    I would like to hear the correct answer myself... but i would guess it would be to do with that a taller rider say, would be sitting further back on the seat... thereby placing more of their weight further towards the back... thereby perhaps requiring a slightly heavier rear spring and/or lighter fork springs.

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    you guys are typical bikers lol, someones always right,

    well you dont have to be a mechanic to rip out an engine and put one in,

    but you may need a dynojet technicial to tune your powercammander!

    EVEN IF YOUR AN OLD CU*T!!!!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
    TYPO mate, I think he meant to say WEIGHT- He does silly hours in the work shop and the internet
    RT did my forks a week ago and requested both weight and height for spring choice.I guess the height at which the weight is carried would effect the force on the front end.
    Will have the onboard camera on this weekend so we can see the difference in front end from poorly installed emulators and a RT install.
    The front end dive was very noticable from round three.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jvd8zUPIXA round three old set up with poorly installed emulators and incorrect spring rate.First half is scrubbing tyres.Start half way in.Will post new footage after round four.

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    You don't just drop emulators into the damper rods.

    The oil control holes in the damper rod HAVE to be modified to suit the emulator and the weight etc of the bike and the oil being used. I have just been though this with RT and although the original setup was good we are still fine tuning it which means the oil control holes have been changed again - even though the emulator has not needed adjusting.

    Knowing what must be done to the damper rods and what weight springs etc to put in the emulator is the expertise you are paying for.

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    This is such a crock of bullshit, we're talking about plain basic damper forks used on the roads on a common 'normal' everyday motorcycle, anyone telling me you need 'special' people with 'special' skills to bung in a pair of emulaters on an old outdated roadbike is talking sewerage. These 'paid experts' all seem to think everyone rides the latest and greatest hyper-sport machines at 160mph with their knees down on racetracks. My message to these self proclaimed experts is get your heads outta yer self-important backsides and come down and join the real world and stop treating joe public like we're all clueless morons lacking any common sense or practical ability...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viscount Montgomery View Post
    stop treating joe public like we're all clueless morons lacking any common sense or practical ability...
    Your posts do absolutely nothing to dispel the myth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viscount Montgomery View Post
    This is such a crock of bullshit, we're talking about plain basic damper forks used on the roads on a common 'normal' everyday motorcycle, anyone telling me you need 'special' people with 'special' skills to bung in a pair of emulaters on an old outdated roadbike is talking sewerage. These 'paid experts' all seem to think everyone rides the latest and greatest hyper-sport machines at 160mph with their knees down on racetracks. My message to these self proclaimed experts is get your heads outta yer self-important backsides and come down and join the real world and stop treating joe public like we're all clueless morons lacking any common sense or practical ability...
    Care to enlighten us with your knowledge on the subject.
    And I hardly think guys like Shaun and RT are "self proclaimed". More like praised for their years of dedication to their similar, but different approaches to suspension work.
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    Deliver small goods? Carpenter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viscount Montgomery View Post
    This is such a crock of bullshit, we're talking about plain basic damper forks used on the roads on a common 'normal' everyday motorcycle, anyone telling me you need 'special' people with 'special' skills to bung in a pair of emulaters on an old outdated roadbike is talking sewerage. These 'paid experts' all seem to think everyone rides the latest and greatest hyper-sport machines at 160mph with their knees down on racetracks. My message to these self proclaimed experts is get your heads outta yer self-important backsides and come down and join the real world and stop treating joe public like we're all clueless morons lacking any common sense or practical ability...
    I'm no 'clueless moron'; I have seen my damper rods and have adjusted them with Robert Taylors advise. I know what standard ones look like too.

    If you think all you do is drop emulators in and everything is fine then you wouldn't be able to find your arse with written directions.

    Tell me you have and your forks are now great. If you can do that then your advise isn't worth the shit that comes out said arse.

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