DR650 vs KLR650?

[Quasievil]

The close to 30 kg weight difference perhaps.

18 kgs actually, you surely must have increased you tank size at least living where you do, so that 18 kgs would be even more reduced.................... this is the point Im trying to make

[NordieBoy]

they are dillusional, the only valid point would be due to weight DR comes in at 147kg dry and the KLR comes in at 175kg, so 18 kgs the difference

There's a bigger difference in the weight of some riders

[TLDV8]

18 kgs actually, you surely must have increased you tank size at least living where you do, so that 18 kgs would be even more reduced.................... this is the point Im trying to make

175 kgs - 147 kgs is not 18 kgs

It is 28 kgs or 61 LBS,a moot point perhaps.

The DR with around 20 litres of fuel (not forgetting the Safari fuel tank is a lowboy tank) adds 20 kgs to the 147 or 167 kgs.
The KLR in that case would be around 193 kgs with 20 litres so little changes.
At 15 litres or more,the Sarfari fuel level (centre of gravity) is lower than the stock 13 litre DR fuel tank.
With around 30 litres + on board the Sarfari climbs to 27 kgs but the range on the tar seal is huge,in the range of Auckland to Wellington without stopping i would think and still comes in at around 174 kgs.
I am in no doubt the KLR would be a better/more comfortable ride in that road going situation.
That again comes back to intended overall use and how far the road/dirt bias is used.
The out the door price of a DR650 in the Northern Territory (highest in Australia) was AU$8500 (perhaps NZ$10000+)

[Quasievil]

175 kgs - 147 kgs is not 18 kgs

It is 28 kgs or 61 LBS,a moot point perhaps.

The DR with around 20 litres of fuel (not forgetting the Safari fuel tank is a lowboy tank) adds 20 kgs to the 147 or 167 kgs.
The KLR in that case would be around 193 kgs with 20 litres so little changes.
At 15 litres or more,the Sarfari fuel level (centre of gravity) is lower than the stock 13 litre DR fuel tank.
With around 30 litres + on board the Sarfari climbs to 27 kgs but the range on the tar seal is huge,in the range of Auckland to Wellington without stopping i would think and still comes in at around 174 kgs.
I am in no doubt the KLR would be a better/more comfortable ride in that road going situation.
That again comes back to intended overall use and how far the road/dirt bias is used.
The out the door price of a DR650 in the Northern Territory (highest in Australia) was AU$8500 (perhaps NZ$10000+)

I should have referenced to the other requirements for the DR to be the same as a KLR ie Wind Protection and a luggage tray of some kind with thos additions there would be nothing in it

dont really matter anyway, both good bikes, just different capabilities.

BTW lived in Darwin for three years loved it, still got the bar called the cage, and fannies and dicks ?? I was there in the eighties

[Crisis management]

We still fighting over this?

Interesting point.....we wandered off yesterday down the west coast, 12 bikes?? and not a KLR in sight, in fact I haven't seen one on any ride this year.

Surely the sign of an adventure bike is that it's seen out there covered in mud?

Righty ho, carry on the debate.

[Quasievil]

The Ultimate test is about to begin, Kaituna on his DR650 (modded to KLR standards) and me on my standard KLR, we will be doing highway and gravel.
lol

[carver]

whats their to fight over?
go the DR!

[Quasievil]

Well test day over but we forgot to test the bikes, had a bloody good day though awesome fun !!

sorry carver just got your pm re coming along, but to be honest mate neither me nor Kaituna would have been that interested in your road racing antics lol.

will post some pics up later

[carver]

Well test day over but we forgot to test the bikes, had a bloody good day though awesome fun !!

sorry carver just got your pm re coming along, but to be honest mate neither me nor Kaituna would have been that interested in your road racing antics lol.

will post some pics up later

yeah, fuck you too then quasi, lol

[Kaituna]

The Ultimate test is about to begin, Kaituna on his DR650 (modded to KLR standards) and me on my standard KLR, we will be doing highway and gravel.
lol

Here is some proof that both the Dr and the KLR left Hamilton at exactly the same time and even arrived at the top of Coromandel at the same time. Amazing....... Both bikes did the job almost identically. Awesome day. The guy on the yellow GSXR750 out of Coromandel must have shit himself being out cornered by a big blue dirty dirt bike!

[Kaituna]

More pics of Coromandel trip today. Kaituna and Quasievil.

[pete376403]

What are those tyres, Quasi, and what are they like on less-than-perfect gravel?

[Quasievil]

What are those tyres, Quasi, and what are they like on less-than-perfect gravel?

They are Avon Diztanzia's great tyre but much more road focused, say 80/20, they are okay on the gravel but the really loose stuff gets a bit skitty, also had one moment in the mud lol kinda funny I charged through a ford to go up the muddy bank on the other side to find a dirty great KLR swallowing hole on infront of me, like 3ft deep by 6 ft wide, I didnt see it until the last sec so turned the bike towards the side to get up the bank , but no no traction, funny moment really front wheel stuck and the rear spinning, so that kinda surface needs a knobbly, the DR had d208s on and had no probs, me thinks Im getting a set of those.

[Padmei]

Gonzo decided to do some breakdancing on his side halfway through a stretch of off camber slick clay yesterday. Those crash bars I put on have paid for themselves already. The knobblies have been ordered

[pete376403]

Knobbies are good. For the CCA ride I had a Michelin M21 front and a Deestone (some obscure Thai brand) on the back, both full knobby and not 100% road legal, but handling on tarmac was ok and great in the sloppy stuff