When stunting goes wrong...

[Katman]

........should we learn something from it or just pretend it never happened?

(I mean really wrong).

Apparently it's off topic to talk about irresponsible behaviour resulting in death in a thread about a stunting video so here's the thread you've probably all been expecting.

[AllanB]

Ah if it goes really wrong I guess you won't be worried about riding again......

Are you on a wind-up again?

[Patch]

do the same thing when you get fired from ya job . . .

[Katman]

Are you on a wind-up again?

No wind-up.

It's something I think needs serious discussion.

[dipshit]

It's all fun and games until someone gets hurt... then all of a sudden they aren't such big "tough motorcyclists" anymore.

[RiderInBlack]

OK but I've not seen the vid ya talking about. Link please.

[FJRider]

Stunting is no different to "pushing the envolope) in other aspects of motorcycling... it has its risks, other people MAY be involved(intentionally or otherwise) so be prepared to TAKE the consequences when the shit happens...

[Katman]

And just to clarify - I'm talking specifically about stunting on public roads where others safety is also being put at risk.

[Patch]

And just to clarify - I'm talking specifically about stunting on public roads where others safety is also being put at risk.

thought you had moved the topic to aeroplanes???


so the 'geek' hasn't removed your isp connection yet??

[madandy]

Stunting is no different to "pushing the envolope) in other aspects of motorcycling... it has its risks, other people MAY be involved(intentionally or otherwise) so be prepared to TAKE the consequences when the shit happens...

I love to see a good display of skilful wheelies and stoppies etc. Some of the KB guys I've seen in action are truly masterful and bring a smile to my face everytime but for those up & coming young riders who practise on public roads and occasionally get it wrong - if me or mine was one of the other people effected, the stunter would be well advised to prepare for the consequences alright!

Practise in safe areas like the track please.

[RiderInBlack]

And just to clarify - I'm talking specifically about stunting on public roads where others safety is also being put at risk.

View it the same as any risky riding. Ok if the road is clear and ya will only hurt ya self. Not ok if ya put others at risk.
Now in saying this there a riders I would happily share the road with while they are on the back wheel (and are safer than many that are still on two). And then again there are some I wouldn't ride close too at all. I have been saved from riding one rider over only because I had seen him cock up stunting before, and therefore as soon as I saw him go up on the back wheel I start backing off straight away. Good thing too, cause a light gust caught him and down he went. Had I not backed-off I would have hit him and his downed bike. Down I would have come pillion and all too. Yes I was pissed off with him, But not as much as He was with himself. So in that case I left it alone. Had he thought it was funny, it would have been different.

[Sparky Bills]

It can be looked at two ways...

I spose you never speed either?? Speed kills ya know. Have you learnt from that? Or is that not what you mean?

Stunting is dangerous no doubt. But I find doing a wheelie safer than riding at 200+.
But of course since its SOOOO dangerous, we shouldnt do it.

SHIT! We may aswell hang up our keys and never ride again!

[JMemonic]

Apparently it's off topic to talk about irresponsible behaviour resulting in death in a thread about a stunting video so here's the thread you've probably all been expecting.

Yes it was way off topic regarding the posts that were made about some of those no longer with us.

No wind-up.

It's something I think needs serious discussion.

Perhaps you are right however no amount of discussion on a forum is going to change the mind set of the folks who are both greatly skilled at this and those who just think they have great skills at this.

And just to clarify - I'm talking specifically about stunting on public roads where others safety is also being put at risk.

Ok the nuts and bolts, I understand where you are coming from, I for one could not perform some of the stunts in question, not my skill set and I know my limitations, one of the things about stunting is to display your skills to an audience and the greatest chance of an audience must be the public road.

It must be difficult for the folks that practise this art anywhere in the world, here in NZ one can not use a car park as it is technically a road and as such you can get prosecuted, unless you have it blocked off to public access, then to comply with the regs you must have marshals to ensure that the public do not enter the danger area, the list goes on, and even when you comply with all the rules should and idiot member of the public enter the safe zone and get hurt due to an accident the organisers can be prosecuted, hell of a risk to pull a wheelie or stoppie isnt it.

Sit back relax and admire the skill and practice of those who are good and displaying good judgement, cringe when you see some practising idiotic behaviour, and realise there is nothing you can do to change these things.

[dipshit]

Yes it was way off topic regarding the posts that were made about some of those no longer with us.

The relevance is... where in all of those how to ride more safely books and pamphlets and videos and classes - does it say to stand up on your seat and pull a wheelie while on the motorway? I am pretty sure it doesn't.

Stunting is safe responsible riding antimatter.

So why do people think it is funny and cool and "good skills" when they see a video of other people doing this on public roads?

[Katman]

I doubt anyone who has been killed whilst riding in an irresponsible manner would come back (if they could) and say "fuck yeah, stunting's cool".

Stunting is dangerous no doubt. But I find doing a wheelie safer than riding at 200+.
But of course since its SOOOO dangerous, we shouldnt do it.

And the attitude that motorcycles are just an extension of our penises is the greatest insult we can give to Motorcycling.