Targeting bike with loud exhausts

[Shiny side up]

Just to add my 5c..... I have an old XJ550. the pipes on them rotted out in the first few years. All the one Ive seen now have 4 into 1 pipes with small mufflers. At 4000rpm they start to sing. I used to have a Honda CBX250RS and I repacked the baffels cause I thought I liked a quiet bike. Everyone seemed to jump out in front of me. Now I have learned two things about bikes
The number one safety feature of a bike is the noise. If the cage driver knows you are there he wont ACCEDENTLY change lanes or pull out into you.
Second thing is when the cage driver does somthing stupid, if you button your horn at him he will respond with the finger as he thinks he is safe in his cage. Pull the clutch in and blip 6000 rpm on the old XJ and it unleshes a widow rattleing snarl. The peasent in the cage jumps out of the way and give you a wide birth. He dosent feel so safe when it sounds like you are comming at him as 200kph. Lound (ish) bikes have a built in safety feature, so green sticker me for being too safe, yup that makes good sense - not!

[Grub]

Bikes SHOULD be loud. !

What a load of old bollocks!

By what divine right should bikes be allowed noise pollution when nothing else, either on wheels or not, is allowed to make noise that exceeds 85dB/100dB?

You want motorcycling to get a bad name? You want ALL motorcyclist to be tarred with the "boy racer" label? You want ALL bikers to be thought of as a big fat hairy anti-social sub-class? Go right ahead and ride noisy bikes making the maximum noise from open pipes and open throttle.

[Shiny side up]

What a load of old bollocks!

By what divine right should bikes be allowed noise pollution when nothing else, either on wheels or not, is allowed to make noise that exceeds 85dB/100dB?
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The right to life!

When other road users (mainly car drivers) learn to use their other senses and stop endagering motorcyclists with their insular stupidity I will happily ride a wisper quite bike. I till then I want to live so I do everything I cant o make them aware of my presence. (Lights, bright clothes, and NOISE)

[Cross Rider]

U raise an interesting point. Low noise bikes especially on the motorways became car skittles. I saw that on the Gold Coast. Overly noisey bikes used just for the loook at mee look at mee riders mean if you need other people to look at you to feel good then perhaps its therapist time. My wife rides a S50, which is a small Suzuki 800 and it does need a little more noise to create car driver awareness. We need to strike a balance without being percieved as being anti social. After all the bike population is very much on the rise.

[Kickaha]

U raise an interesting point. Low noise bikes especially on the motorways became car skittles. I saw that on the Gold Coast. Overly noisey bikes used just for the loook at mee look at mee riders mean if you need other people to look at you to feel good then perhaps its therapist time. My wife rides a S50, which is a small Suzuki 800 and it does need a little more noise to create car driver awareness. We need to strike a balance without being percieved as being anti social. After all the bike population is very much on the rise.

The noise you need to generate for a car driver to become aware of you has to be obnoxiously loud to even be noticed

The whole loud pipes save lives line is bullshit propaganda some people use to justify running them

In my company ute with the radio going and windows up a bike has to be right at the back corner or alongside before I will hear it pretty much regardless of what type of bike it is and what type of pipe it has

When I had my last Ducati with Conti pipes on it made no difference whatsoever to awareness from car drivers

[Cross Rider]

Agreed, you noticed them before you ran them off the road. Not everyone plays loud music, drives a ute or has their windows up. I certainly notice loud trucks, cars and bikes on the road. As I am sure do others. One life spared by another motorist hearing them first is worth it, is it not?

[imdying]

I would wager that most people drive with the windows and stereo up... he's right, loud pipes don't save shit.

[pritch]

Heh,heh - oh don't you just love it when everyone is wrong?

Now now don't get too cocky. I can remember your posts on the topic of standards printed on braided hoses...

[Kickaha]

Agreed, you noticed them before you ran them off the road. Not everyone plays loud music, drives a ute or has their windows up. I certainly notice loud trucks, cars and bikes on the road. As I am sure do others. One life spared by another motorist hearing them first is worth it, is it not?

I noticed them at the point where they'd just got themselves into position to be run off the road if I moved over without looking the noise from their pipes made no difference, I drive quite a few different vehicles and especially later model vehicles are very well insulated against exterior sound even if the radio isn't going and I don't have mine loud

I see them in mirrors long before I ever hear them and I don't believe having loud pipes fitted makes any difference and there is no way to tell if they move because of the noise from the pipes or because they actually checked there mirrors

[shoshin]

Yeah, Not so sure that noisy pipes save lives. Don't get me wrong, I love the sound of my HD fitted with V&H. They have the quieter baffles and I still ride inside a wall of sound.
The problem with drivers is that they mostly wont hear you in time, the use of a their sound system will mostly block you out unless you blat your pipes when your on them.
There are also those who use their pipes to get through congested traffic, I see this from my office and it is annoying. It will only annoy drivers who will push for bikes to be included in the policing/ticketing.

So, I have loud pipes and I did the night of a driver pulling out in front of me. I now have a new bike. Did my pipes help? Not in the slightest. But do I want the sound? - that's why I bought the bike.

What we need is simply an anti-revving law.

[Headbanger]

We don't need more laws.

If fuckwits were taken off the road (no matter how many wheels they travelled on) it would be a safer place, But it makes more profit to keep everyone on the road and use them for resource gathering.

[Cross Rider]

Hows the Nightser performing? My wife is keen to get one at some stage.

[duckonin]

Loud pipes save nothing at all, your own senses and ability to ride defensivley save your arse, stay where the mutts can actually see you not in the blind spots, as that is the place you are going to be caught in; get through it fast.., and if you need their attention use what all bikes have .....Your Horn

[Headbanger]

Loud pipes save nothing at all, your own senses and ability to ride defensivley save your arse, stay where the mutts can actually see you not in the blind spots, as that is the place you are going to be caught in; get through it fast.., and if you need their attention use what all bikes have .....Your Horn

I disagree.

Plenty of times a rev of my engine has caused a driver to notice me and curb the lane drift they were in the middle of doing, which would have wiped me out.

If the car driver is not bothering to look or not paying attention then blind-spots are irrelevant.

[doc]

What a load of old bollocks!

By what divine right should bikes be allowed noise pollution when nothing else, either on wheels or not, is allowed to make noise that exceeds 85dB/100dB?

You want motorcycling to get a bad name? You want ALL motorcyclist to be tarred with the "boy racer" label? You want ALL bikers to be thought of as a big fat hairy anti-social sub-class? Go right ahead and ride noisy bikes making the maximum noise from open pipes and open throttle.

This is a pisstake. Please don't tell me you mean this.