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    Why we crash

    this is similar to outlawtorns thread here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ighlight=crash but perhaps a little more learner-centric,

    stolen from another forum, who stole it who stole it blah:

    With all the people going down so early in the season, I thought I'd post a reminder to for the riders out there. Have fun and keep the shiny side up.

    1. We crash on cold tires. Respect them by giving them a few miles to warm up, especially if they're brand new. After stopping to eat or something, remember you're not the only thing that has cooled down, allow your tires sufficient time to warm up again.

    2. We crash on overloaded tires. If you are new to riding or rusty after a winter layoff, applying too much throttle or brake while leaned over could be very costly. Our tires can provide amazing levels of traction but they're not immune to "lead" hands. The instinct of grabbing a handful of front brake while leaned over will put you in the guardrail.

    3a. We crash because we underestimate the road effects. those road snakes look ok but they might send your back wheel into the barrier 3 lanes to the right (I KNOW THIS!)

    3b. We crash trying to keep up. Ultimate speed on a back road has little to do with the bike and everything to do with the rider. Once you realize this, twisting the throttle WFO to keep your friends in sight on the straights while losing them in the corners becomes a non-option. Ride your own pace.

    4. We crash because we want to go fast. Sometimes, even the posted speed limit is inappropriate. Coming over a blind crest at 80kph might be too fast if you can't stop the bike before hitting the hazard you only see when it's too late. Speed reduces time to react and adds distance to react in emergency situations.

    5. We crash because we bail out. How many posts have there been about entering a corner too hot, standing the bike up and running out of road before getting the bike stopped? Too hot means your brain is probably freaked out but there is still plenty of tire traction available. LOOK through the corner, LEAN the bike until hard parts drag, BELIEVE in modern tire technology.

    6. We crash because we lose our focus. The bike travels 27.7meters per second at 100 kph. A moment's inattention puts you that much farther into a corner. Think about the next corner, not the one you just blew. That one is over, focus on getting the next one right.

    7. We crash because we rush corner entrances. Slow in, fast out works for racers season after season. It works for road riders too. Slow down a bit on your corner entrances and see how much smoother you become.

    8. We crash because we can't keep up with the motorcycle. Make sure your software is the equal of your bikes hardware. The bike has the ability to go 200kph, that doesn’t mean YOU do.

    9. We crash trying to look cool. If it takes wheelies, stoppies and other stunts to impress your friends...you need new friends.

    10. We crash because we don't practice enough. If you are going to be riding at 100kph you should practice emergency braking at 100kph. Otherwise, how are you going to know how to do it when the situation comes up?

    11. We crash because of indecisiveness. If you're going to do something, then do it. If your bud decides to go through a red light and you decide to stop, then STOP!... and vice versa.. if you decide to go, then GO!, don't stop.

    12. Communication in group riding, make sure you understand what to do and what the signals mean.

    p.s. Alcohol dosen't help either. Use your head.





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    Motorcycle safety


    Motorcyclists have a high vulnerability to sustaining injuries on the road given their limited protection in the event of a crash.

    Issues

    Protective clothing
    One of the most effective measures motorcyclists can take to avoid or lessen certain types of injuries is by wearing full protective gear.


    Visibility
    One of the most common crash types involving motorcycles involves other vehicles. A proportion of these result from other road users failing to see the motorcyclist. The use of daytime running lights and bright coloured motorcycles and clothing can help to address this issue. Methods of improving the way other road users perceive motorcyclists on the road need to be explored and acted upon.

    Alcohol
    Riding demands greater co-ordination, balance and concentration than driving. Effects of alcohol are therefore far more dramatic for riders, even at levels under the legal limit

    Experience
    Inexperience amongst motorcyclists is a contributing factor in many motorcycle crashes. As with car drivers, experience is critical in making motorcyclists safer on the roads. However, whilst inexperienced drivers normally fall within the age group of 18 to 25 years, inexperienced riders can be of any age. This is partly due to individuals taking up riding later in life and partly as a result of riders taking up motorcycling again after many years of not riding at all.
    Last edited by pyrocam; 7th August 2008 at 18:48. Reason: mph to kph

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    always good to be reminded of the some of the basics of how to avoid garking up my purdy baby.

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    Bloody great post!

    Given too much rep in last 24hours...
    Quote Originally Posted by tigertim20 View Post
    etiquette? treat it like every other vehicle on the road, assume they are a blind, ignorant brainless cunt who is out to kill you, and ride accordingly

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    A good summaary of basic survival skills I think.

    I'm afraid I'm guilty of several of these errors. Number five is quite hard to train yourself out of I found.
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    Cheers for the copy and paste!

    Good info there, thanks mate.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrocam View Post
    The bike has the ability to go 200kph, that doesn’t mean YOU do.
    Well said that man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruisin' Craig View Post
    A good summaary of basic survival skills I think.

    I'm afraid I'm guilty of several of these errors. Number five is quite hard to train yourself out of I found.
    Yeah that has to be the worst for even experienced guys to get out of the head and then of course comes fixating on where you will end up, instead of looking round the corner and just doing it !
    A girlfriend once asked " Why is it you seem to prefer to race, than spend time with me ?"
    The answer was simple ! "I'll prolly get bored with racing too, once i've nailed it !"

    Bowls can wait !

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    Great post

    Always look to were you want to be.

    If you are turning right push the right handlebar forward and if you are running out of road push it forward more.

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    Yeah posts like this one are always good to read. As a noobie I always appreciate more knowledge if it helps me enjoy what i'm doing even more.

    Thanks for the post.

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    Blimmin awesome re-post of a post! +1 from me...
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    Interesting.

    I've only crashed 5 times in my riding life (29 years on bikes) but I've been guilty of all 12 at least once each.

    Good post.
    And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riffer View Post
    Interesting.

    I've only crashed 5 times in my riding life (29 years on bikes) but I've been guilty of all 12 at least once each.

    Good post.
    5 times in 29 years?!?! Ya noob!

    I've only been riding 4 years, and have crashed 3 times already! get a move on!
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    Good post, thanks Pyrocam.

    I need to be reminded of these safety points. We all do.

    Losing focus (inattention) and going too fast are the biggies for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bend-it View Post
    5 times in 29 years?!?! Ya noob!

    I've only been riding 4 years, and have crashed 3 times already! get a move on!
    I'm not counting dirt bikes.
    And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.

    - James Dickey, Cherrylog Road.

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    6. We crash because we lose our focus.

    This is a big one,We get tried so quick hard riding and fast ,we loose focus and then there a corner , Rest should be done every hour stop stand up walk around even a drink,but 5 mins a must, I know some people 400kms and only stop for gas

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