Different standards?

[fire eyes]

Ok I looked at the piccy again! none of them are cool because none of them are wearing any type of protection! I think a huge part of the sexiness of riding is wearing the motorcycle gears (for men & women), two birds with one stone thing here, protection AND sexiness .. I think I am getting excited just thinking about it lol .. ... Most NZ motorcyclist I have seen on the roads are pretty responsible & gear up, I have only ever come across one situation where a guy was in town riding his motorcycle in shorts and jandlas! He did have a helmet on but Id hate to think the amount of skin he would leave on the road in the event he fell off!

As for the fatty/skinny thing .. the physical form is always changing .. so many factors contribute to this - age/lifestyle/emotions/hormones/sickness/gender/children/drugs/grief .. the list goes on ..... In all respect though BN .. I have never come across a skinny person recieving flak because they are skinny! The only situations I know of where a skinny person has been abused would be because of thier lack of consideration for others, selfishness & byist points of views. If your experience of abuse was unwarranted then I am sorry to hear of your expriences .. no one should be subjected to any form of abuse as equally as we should accept people for where they are at for that moment.

Right .. Im going to eat my chocolate now & no .. none of you lot are having any and yes I wil enjoy it & then Ill go for a walk.. and if you don't like it .. then up your date!

[chanceyy]

DO I detect a defensive air my dear? Do you think the big girls are picking on you? Harden up that isn't what's going on at all - infact much of this thread ISN'T actually about YOU.

Well said babe, but I have to wonder if this thread is more fodder for her education

Sad eh...that's human nature I guess. We are all essentially flawed and it helps some of us feel good about ourselves to have a laugh at anothers expense.

& that is the crux of the matter really, I have always thought here but for the grace of god.

While at college we had a mentally challenged guy who used to bike around the school, he was as sharp as a tack even though he drooled & could not talk, yet everyone respected him & he was "normal" til a car accident rended him to a life of sharp mind trapped in a distorted body.

Great to have that experience while young, cause you learn to appreciate ppl the way they are, you never know what tomorrow might bring & you could be challenged in that manner.

Unfortunately too many ppl are brought up to regard body size/shape as the most important thing rather than the personality/ability of the individual. Those are the ppl who are shallow & in my experience not ppl I can be bothered with.

[Number One]

I have to wonder if this thread is more fodder for her education

I keep forgetting you are training to be a psychologist BN...that might explain the dual personality stuff I see in many of your posts. Playing both sides of arguments does provoke interesting comments though doesn't it .

Hard for me to imagine someone training to be a psychologist being quite so wedded to the judgemental 'opinions and comments' you've stated in various points throughout this thread...if you were wedded to those thoughts I'd be concerned for all those really damaged people out there that you might be hoping to *help* in the future.

I'm humbled by this saying and mostly I aspire to live it...not suggesting I'm good at that either Hmmkay!
Similar to whoever said Be mindful of your thoughts young padawan blah blah blah - ferkin Star Wars!

Watch your thoughts; they become words.
Watch your words; they become actions.
Watch your habits; they become character.
Watch your character; it becomes your destiny..

[Bikernereid]

DO I detect a defensive air my dear? Do you think the big girls are picking on you? Harden up that isn't what's going on at all - infact much of this thread ISN'T actually about YOU.

Not defensive just like to look at the facts. I like a good BALANCED debate and maybe I like to defend the slim people out there as there seems to be more than enough peeps to defend the larger person.

And no this isn't fodder for uni work although I am researching young adult female offenders. Who knows maybe abuse from fat people may have interacted with thier criminogenic needs to lead them to where they currently are- in prison.

As for 'dual personality', sorry no disgnoses of an personality disorder. But I spent all of my working life in politics so I am well trained in being devils advocate!

And I take each individual person as I find them. Although I may have strong opinions regarding certain groups of individuls and that is my right to have those opinions (maybe if more peeps had opinions and felt strongly about oppression etc then maybe it might be fought against by the masses and certain governments would not be in power), I always get to know individuls of that group on aone-to-one basis.

[Number One]

Politics! Indeed explains alot

[chanceyy]

Politics! Indeed explains alot

[Bikernereid]

Politics! Indeed explains alot

Not got much going for me really have I, working in politics and now wants to work with offenders!!

I have always thought here but for the grace of god.

While at college we had a mentally challenged guy who used to bike around the school, he was as sharp as a tack even though he drooled & could not talk, yet everyone respected him & he was "normal" til a car accident rended him to a life of sharp mind trapped in a distorted body.

Great to have that experience while young, cause you learn to appreciate ppl the way they are, you never know what tomorrow might bring & you could be challenged in that manner.

Unfortunately too many ppl are brought up to regard body size/shape as the most important thing rather than the personality/ability of the individual. Those are the ppl who are shallow & in my experience not ppl I can be bothered with.

Although I do work with mentally & phyically disabled people and love it. So I guess maybe when you work with the most disadvantaged of society (and often the nicest and most unconditional) you develop a slightly warped sense of humour and different way of looking at the world (and yes sometimes a very frustrated way). I think that most people that I work with have very twisted sense of humours but are very very kind people and are fantastic at what they do. Maybe if more people had to work with disabled people then some of their shallowness might be removed but then again people would argue this removes individuals freedom not to work with said people.

[Trudes]

Maybe if more people had to work with disabled people then some of their shallowness might be removed but then again people would argue this removes individuals freedom not to work with said people.

Now this I agree with. It's like people who enjoy going about beating the crap out of people should spend some time working in hospitals.

[Bikernereid]

Now this I agree with. It's like people who enjoy going about beating the crap out of people should spend some time working in hospitals.

I don't know if you have resorative justice in NZ but it is when crims come face to face with victims of crime. It seems to work with some crims. On a doco the other week I saw some 'tough' young lads in tears when in such a situation and it really was genuine. It seems to give a face and personality to victims.

[avgas]

how come fat is such a small word?

[McJim]

I don't know if you have resorative justice in NZ but it is when crims come face to face with victims of crime. It seems to work with some crims. On a doco the other week I saw some 'tough' young lads in tears when in such a situation and it really was genuine. It seems to give a face and personality to victims.

Until you deal with a real psychopath then it can be unfairly traumatic for the victim's family. Some violent crims actually get off on the emotional hurt they cause.

And this whole thread arose from someone having the bad taste to wear a pink T with red gloves and no lid...and of course having the really bad taste to ride a bike of Japanese origin!

[Her_C4]

Not got much going for me really have I, working in politics and now wants to work with offenders!!



Although I do work with mentally & phyically disabled people and love it. ..... and a lot of other stuff..............

I have worked with 'disadvataged' and a smattering of disabled (including behaviourally challenged) for about 20 years now (and funnily enough they were all inmates!!) and (by all means call me naive), but I am amazed that you can say the above yet still and constantly attack others and their viewpoints under the guise of playing the 'devils advocate'.

I am also well familiar with 'black humour' and have used in my job for many years as a sort of safety valve / defence mechanism, but I don't use to rationalise ignorance or bad manners.

I am sure that the recipient of your frequent diatribes / grandstanding are well able to defend themselves but given your stated intent in regards to your chosen profession here in good ole NZ (we have more than enough borderline personality disorders here!) it certainly gives the rest of us food for thought.

[Bikernereid]

Until you deal with a real psychopath then it can be unfairly traumatic for the victim's family. Some violent crims actually get off on the emotional hurt they cause.

And this whole thread arose from someone having the bad taste to wear a pink T with red gloves and no lid...and of course having the really bad taste to ride a bike of Japanese origin!

They are very cautious about who restorative justice is used with and the victims and criminals they see are chosen to meet are picked with care.

[Bikernereid]

I have worked with 'disadvataged' and a smattering of disabled (including behaviourally challenged) for about 20 years now (and funnily enough they were all inmates!!) and (by all means call me naive), but I am amazed that you can say the above yet still and constantly attack others and their viewpoints under the guise of playing the 'devils advocate'.

I am also well familiar with 'black humour' and have used in my job for many years as a sort of safety valve / defence mechanism, but I don't use to rationalise ignorance or bad manners.

I am sure that the recipient of your frequent diatribes / grandstanding are well able to defend themselves but given your stated intent in regards to your chosen profession here in good ole NZ (we have more than enough borderline personality disorders here!) it certainly gives the rest of us food for thought.

Hey I hear what you are saying but do not believe that attack is necessarily the right word but then again it does depend on where you are coming from. But you like me are entitled to your opinion and luckily we have the freedom to express it.

[McJim]

I have worked with 'disadvataged' and a smattering of disabled (including behaviourally challenged) for about 20 years now (and funnily enough they were all inmates!!) and (by all means call me naive), but I am amazed that you can say the above yet still and constantly attack others and their viewpoints under the guise of playing the 'devils advocate'.

I am also well familiar with 'black humour' and have used in my job for many years as a sort of safety valve / defence mechanism, but I don't use to rationalise ignorance or bad manners.

I am sure that the recipient of your frequent diatribes / grandstanding are well able to defend themselves but given your stated intent in regards to your chosen profession here in good ole NZ (we have more than enough borderline personality disorders here!) it certainly gives the rest of us food for thought.

Hey I hear what you are saying but do not believe that attack is necessarily the right word but then again it does depend on where you are coming from. But you like me are entitled to your opinion and luckily we have the freedom to express it.

Lighten up FFS!