Almost got killed today..

[jrandom]

I've crossed swords with this guy I bet he gives you a red rep and then starts with the personal insults.

Take a look in the mirror before you get your knickers in a knot, eh?



Edit: By the way, folks, I never give 'red rep' to anyone unless they've just handed me some. It just seems an appropriate comment to make in that situation.

[newby]

Although i can sympathise with the situation, i understand what Jrandom is saying...

I spend 10 hours a day on Auckland urban roads (all be it in a truck, not a bike) but i still have to compensate for a hell of a lot of other F wits which just arent aware of their surroundings. Especially as in a Truck Vs Car accident the truck usually gets the blame as far as piggies are concerned.

Seems to be the same thing on a bike, except even more so as you come out worse off...

[jrandom]

doesnt really bother me, its a relief that the majority of the human race have sympathy or something useful to say, the rest i could care less about, but sadly the lesser of us tend to also be more vocal in their mocking and insulting..

All right, here y'go. Would you like a hug?



You poor, poor sossidge. You got all scared! It's horrible when that happens, isn't it?

Swoop put the necessary advice nicely and sensitively, just now. Far more appropriately for your delicate sensibilities than my rather blunt assessment of risk should your attitude remain unchanged.

Go read his post.

[1 Free Man]

some people find that reason enough to ridicule or debase me.. i fail to comprehend that

welcome to KB. being a new poster, as I am to, you become a target of the long term poster that have been here for ever and consider it their right to give you as much shit as they can because they are never wrong and they always like to have the last word.
I thought it was KIWIBIKERS but sometimes it's KINDY BULLIES.
They generally have bigger dicks than we do and they like to insult your ride as well. That helps with the dick size I think.

[Ehgreiz]

Do I really need to spell this shit out?

You can't expect other road users to look out for you. 'Fault' is only something that matters to the cops and the insurance companies.

Getting all indignant because someone nearly killed you with their one-and-a-half-tonne wrecking ball on wheels is a waste of emotional energy that could be put into riding more defensively.

I sense Ehgreiz failing to take responsibility for his own safety on the road, ergo, he's at a high risk of bad shit happening to him.

right, okay.

scenario for ya Jrandom.

you are driving along, watching out ahead of you, taking note of cars on the side of the road, cars infront of you, cars coming towards you, when all of a sudden some guy comes screaming out of a blind side-road in your blind spot at high speed giving you all of .01 seconds to react to the screeching sound of tires and revving engine coming toward you.

now, weither or not you react correctly to this situation, is it your fault?

because according to what you are saying it is.

i appreciate where you are coming from, and all in all i have learnt from this situation, but FAULT is one thing, reacting correctly to a situation is another thing entirely..

i take responsibility for my actions and my safety when im on the road, as much as a fly takes responsibility of making a nice mess on your windscreen. there are some things that are just out of your control.

now while i do appreciate what you are saying, how you are saying it makes you look like a dick.

[Irontusk]

i think his point that he was trying to make was that everything that ever goes wrong in auckland city ever is my fault and that i should die because of it..

or maybe i missed something because of the shiney green tshirt

Oh so it's you we should all be blaming then.. good to know So you can explain why I don't have my bike yet then? (Yes I'm still thinking about it)

Still though, just because you did manage to get out of the way, and there was a slightly faster way out of it, doesn't mean you're at fault.. and as for 'posting a gay thread'.. this is educational for new riders, is it not?

[Ehgreiz]

Oh so it's you we should all be blaming then.. good to know So you can explain why I don't have my bike yet then? (Yes I'm still thinking about it)

Still though, just because you did manage to get out of the way, and there was a slightly faster way out of it, doesn't mean you're at fault.. and as for 'posting a gay thread'.. this is educational for new riders, is it not?

while not the reason i originally posted it, i suppose it could be looked at as an educational thing.

i mean my lesson here is that when i get caught in a situation that is both bad and surprising and out of my control, rather than react to it calmly (in this case lightly breaking and pulling in behind his car) i panic panicked and expected the car driver to correct his mistake (which thank god he semi did).

the reaction was my fault, the driver being a blind dumb and stupid bastard was not my fault.

[jrandom]

you are driving along...

I don't drive.

I ride.

blind side-road in your blind spot

If I failed to anticipate something zooming out from a place on the road that I wasn't able to see, then I failed to protect myself.

If the vehicle didn't actually materialise out of thin air, then I should have read the road layout and anticipated it.

If you think that's asking too much, well... like I said. You gonna die.

how you are saying it makes you look like a dick

No, it makes you feel belittled. Slight difference. And no offense meant. What I'm pointing out could save your life.

'1 Free Man' is just in a snot because I pointed out the other week, after he indulged in a self-righteous rant about how people shouldn't speed, that his bike could barely get over the legal open-road speed limit anyway.

It would appear that he sees the wobbly that he threw at me thereafter as 'crossing swords'.

[Mom]

I very nearly killed an innocent passenger in a car piloted by a learner driver yesterday. Closest I have come in a long time.

Driving straight through a T intersection where the cross roads have compulsory stops both sides. I always approach this intersection with caution and care as almost no one actually stops to check if there is something coming. I got almost into the intersection when a car came out to my right without showing any signs of slowing at all. I used all the stopping force my poor old bomb of a car had and heaved the steering wheel left to avoid it. Scared the bejaysus out of me.

I am picking the supervising passenger hauled on the handbrake as the driver had both hands off the wheel covering her face! FAAARRRR OUT!!!

This happened at a known dick heads dont stop intersection, prepared as I am, I still managed to come closer than I ever want to again.

Be aware at all times on a bike, they will get you if you dont!

[Katman]

I've crossed swords with this guy I bet he gives you a red rep and then starts with the personal insults.

I've 'crossed swords' with him too - turns out I can piss higher.

[PrincessBandit]

You have two sides of a coin to deal with...



Cagers are simple 1-braincell creatures. Unless you pose a physical threat to them, your presence will not normally be noted. (Physical threat can be anything from being dressed in black, up to something that might rip their head off and shit down their neck).

Situational awareness is everything.

I'm a simple 1-braincelled creature!!! OMG!!! How have I managed to survive so long??? [my internet connection is sooooooooooooo slooooooooow at the moment, so i've been unable to add the rolf smilie].
Last sentence is so true - always have to be thinking ahead even in seemingly 'ideal' conditions; and choosing where and when to test your (and your bikes) limits so you can maximise your chances of extracting yourself from a shit situation when it arises.
Btw swoop, you do know that some lovely lasses actually like staples (well piercings anyway) in those "centrefold" spots........wink wink

[Ehgreiz]

fair enough jrandom, and i do see my mistake already without you pointing it out in such an obnoxious way, but thank you nonetheless

its just that generally speaking i prefer advice to be given in a friendly fassion than in a way that makes me feel cruddy.. my fault for being human i guess

[justsomeguy]

right, okay.

scenario for ya Jrandom.

you are driving along, watching out ahead of you, taking note of cars on the side of the road, cars infront of you, cars coming towards you, when all of a sudden some guy comes screaming out of a blind side-road in your blind spot at high speed giving you all of .01 seconds to react to the screeching sound of tires and revving engine coming toward you.

now, weither or not you react correctly to this situation, is it your fault?

because according to what you are saying it is.

i appreciate where you are coming from, and all in all i have learnt from this situation, but FAULT is one thing, reacting correctly to a situation is another thing entirely..

i take responsibility for my actions and my safety when im on the road, as much as a fly takes responsibility of making a nice mess on your windscreen. there are some things that are just out of your control.

now while i do appreciate what you are saying, how you are saying it makes you look like a dick.

Doesn't matter who's fault it is - you die - you're dead. End of story.

More motorcycle accidents are caused by other road users errors. Infact people pulling in front of bikes causes the majority of such accidents.

A lot of bikers kill themselves too by being dumb idiots, but these guys were gonna kill themselves anyway... hang around bikes for a while and you will know what I mean and who I refer to.

Leave JRandom alone, he already has a boyfriend. Eh Boomboomboy?

But if you're feeling lonely I know 1 Free Man for you.....

[jrandom]

... turns out I can piss higher.

I think you might be confusing me with someone else; I don't recall being involved in a pissing contest.

Unless, of course, you stuck around that day at the track to watch me take a leak?

...

Oh my. (You should have told me you were into that already.)

[jrandom]

Leave JRandom alone, he already has a boyfriend. Eh Boomboomboy?

Shhhh, you'll make kiwifruit and Katman jealous.