Shock! Horror! Keith Code = teh Scientologist!?!?

[Biff]

Erm - aren't 95% of religions "made up". The only main difference with Scientology is that you have to pay good money to join.

I say the Aztecs had it right. The love the earth and the earth will love you back approach works for me, far better than some guy and his wife that built a boat, collected a male and female of all living animals etc and went off on a cruise.

.........I wonder how long it will be beofre this thread will turn into an extension of the religious thread currently showing on the other channel?

[Jamezo]

... were made up, but a long long time ago, thereby lending them an aura of respectability?

I'm not defending those religions, rather using them as a way of showing how, they, even with the benefit of thousands of years of history, and even limited archaeological evidence, are still commonly refuted, thus; Scientology with absolutely NO evidence of the religion being anything more credible than the bizarre writings of one man (and indeed, all scientific evidence completely contradicts Scientology), would require an immense level of foolishness to have such blind faith in it.

[jrandom]

I'm not defending those religions...

Why not? What's wrong with 'em?

archaeological evidence...

What, of God's existence?

Scientology with absolutely NO evidence of the religion being anything more credible than the bizarre writings of one man...

Phew. Good thing all the Proper Religions (tm) aren't based on such a shaky foundation.

[Blakamin]

Scientology with absolutely NO evidence of the religion being anything more credible than the bizarre writings of one man

as opposed to the bizarre writings of a coupla blokes????


[edit] sorry JR, didnt see your post to the same effect

[Amarzzata]

Remember on Holmes a while back, there was that religion that was based on that funny alien that came down and spoke to some dude. What was that about? I remember laughing at them but I forgot most of what they said

if i'm right, what you're talking about is some dude called Rael... but dont remember the religion tho...but i know he is the founder and that he raced a ferrari (or was it a lambo ??) to some high levels !! With the cash of his beloved religious folks...

Religions are ALL bulshit to make money...how do you think they paid for all the cathedrals, all the BIG churches and all this shit ? The Vatican hasnt a gold plated roof ?? And i know a church in dominican Republic which has solid gold entrance doors !!!

I'd be for religions if we didnt have to pay anything and if they gave us all a brand new bike upon inscription

[jrandom]

if i'm right, what you're talking about is some dude called Rael... but dont remember the religion tho...

Er, funnily enough, they call themselves 'Raelians'...

[Hitcher]

It is entirely accurate to say Scientology is completely made up, as opposed to 'mainstream' religions, ie. Judaism, Christianity, which have a relatively solid basis in recorded history.

Some may argue that they were just "made up" earlier. Passage of time should not be taken as a measure of credibility. Look at me. I'm an old fart. What the fuck do I know??

Anyway, shouldn't this discussion be being had on the Scottish thread?

[mangell6]

It is entirely accurate to say Scientology is completely made up, as opposed to 'mainstream' religions, ie. Judaism, Christianity, which have a relatively solid basis in recorded history.

The 'religion', it's teachings lacking merit or sanity, resorts to lying, manipulation, litigation, brainwashing and other abhorrent tactics, in an effort to gain more members and thus cash.

Hmm, if I recall my vague history, from another life, the 25th celebrates is it a Roman god, the Winter Solstice, or the birth of some dude who wasn't actually born on that date.

And then we have another that falls around a celestial event, which includes rabbits and eggs. I think that these were 'borrowed' from some other 'religion' . . . .

Remember there are 'facts' and there are 'facts', it was scientifically proven that man could not fly, reach the moon (oh that is an interesting one) and that if you drove faster than ??mph that the skin would be torn off your face.

And then of course there is the 'winners' right history.

I wonder if this group of people help him with his riding???

Mike

[MikeL]

Passage of time should not be taken as a measure of credibility. Look at me. I'm an old fart. What the fuck do I know??

Anyway, shouldn't this discussion be being had on the Scottish thread?

Quite right.

[Jamezo]

Some may argue that they were just "made up" earlier. Passage of time should not be taken as a measure of credibility. Look at me. I'm an old fart. What the fuck do I know??

Anyway, shouldn't this discussion be being had on the Scottish thread?

possibly due to my own failings, I have failed to make my point clear enough, so let's try again.

Christianity/Judaism: holy texts recorded by people living at or at least near the time that events, however supposedly, happened. time passed since then nonwithstanding, they basically called it as they saw it. (though somebody here could probably argue against that)

Scientology: texts written by a science fiction author, about events supposedly happening millions of years ago, that he has absolutely no chance of personally witnessing. (I am not going to entertain notions of some kind of 'astral projection' either, though I've never even heard of LRH gaining his writings in this way anyway)

there is a reasonable possiblity that the writings of the old & new testament of the bible were based at least partially on real events, just because they were in fact there, written by real people. I think it's fairly unreasonable to claim that the authors of what we know as the christian bible somehow colluded to produce a work that would be used to dupe people out of there money (that's the churches job anyway).

LRH's material came completely out of his arse. there is not a shred of reality even tangentially connected to it, it is a complete work of fiction designed to part the easily manipulated with their money.

thus supporting my original point, that anybody who falls for such an atrocious piece of fiction is a fool of magnamimous proportions.

[Blakamin]

there is a reasonable possiblity that the writings of the old & new testament of the bible were based at least partially on real events, just because they were in fact there, written by real people.

cool, time to write something saying, f'rinstance, Jim2 is god... after all, I saw him on a mountain top (pie-cock hill) and he spoke to me of such goodness as "Ducati" etc...
:unsure: I was there, I oughta know!!!

[SPORK]

Really, stop trying to make a fight out of this.

There is no possible way that L. Ron Hubbard was doing anything else apart from making an imaginary religion to get some money.

Alien Ghosts? Please. Come on. Last time I checked I wasn't posessed by any of those. We all know that he is full of *expletive deleted*, so let's leave it there.

This thread was more of a notice that someone had fallen to the dark side, rather than someone gearing up for a "Religious Ravings Part II: Ellron"

Why can't we all just get along? Well, that would be boring... So instead, why can't we just put this to rest?

[vtec]

Anybody who still has even a smidgen of "faith" (read: nonsensical desperate hope for the existence of a higher being to make you feel important/purposeful than you really are) left this website should straighten you out pretty quick. www.religionisbullshit.com


Just checked the website, and its down for the moment, but should be back up soon. Makes a really good read, I love the feedback and answers to feedback page.

[Coyote]

Religion is bullshit

So is evolution

There, eveyones a loser

[Smokey]

Scientology :spudwhat:

www.xenu.net

Scientology is pretty cult like and greedy. "L" Rob Hubbard was quoted as saying "The best way to make money is to start a religion". A tradition proudly carried on by nzs own "sponsered by Mobil Oil" Br*an Tamaki...though he steals bits from others rather than creates his own