Tauranga : Irate driver hauls boy racer out car window

[jrandom]

I hope he gets done for assault and jailed. Stupid vigilante justice and stupid to think that any form of vigilante behaviour is acceptable in a civilised society.

As annoying and potentially-dangerous as the boy racers undoubtedly were, this gentleman who drove while disqualified, ran one of them off the road and then dragged him out of his car through the window is a knuckle-dragging moron.

And so is anyone who unthinkingly beats their chest in support of his actions.

I'm a little tired of NZ society's ape-like attitude toward interpersonal violence. Annoyed at someone else's behaviour? Ram their car, hand out a bash, all quite acceptable.

Fuckin' idiots.

[Skyryder]

Whether he is in the right or the wrong is inmaterial. One of his children was nearly injured and he acted as any father who was more concerned about the safety of his child rather that the legality of his actions. For that I applaud his actions.


Skyyrder

[jrandom]

... concerned about the safety of his child rather that the legality of his actions.

His actions didn't make his child any safer.

He pursued the boy racers in question after they'd already departed the area and were no longer posing any threat. It was pure reprisal.

[Ixion]

He said boy racers had crashed through his front fence, smashed into a tree, and narrowly missed knocking his 8-year-old daughter off her bike before the incident.
"I've got no love for those pricks."
His sentiment was matched by Mr Anderson, who was coming out of his driveway with his family when they spotted two boy racer cars driving side by side and doing skids on a neighbour's grass.

It wasn't an arrest.

I hope he gets done for assault and jailed. Stupid vigilante justice and stupid to think that any form of vigilante behaviour is acceptable in a civilised society.

Iraq is needing to replace a few hundred thousand people and they like that vigilante stuff there, so you know what to do about it.

What, then , would you suggest people who are suffering from the attentions of the boi-racers should do?

It certainly does not seem reaosnbale that they should have to "grin and bear it" indefinately. Let alone the probability of someone, child or adult being injured and killed (certainly would not be the first case of a pedestrian being killed by boi-racers). And , if they do not sort the matter out themselves, there is no other solution that I know of.

[Balrog]

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing

+1 for the vigilante

[Ixion]

His actions didn't make his child any safer.

He pursued the boy racers in question after they'd already departed the area and were no longer posing any threat. It was pure reprisal.

That might be valid if the incident were a one off, and the boi-racers, having departed, would not be seen again.

But the report makes it clear that was not the case

He said boy racers had been plaguing their street ever since they moved in 18 months ago, and the neighbourhood had formed a support group to try to deal with the problem.

So, clearly, although they had departed the area, they would be back. To ignore their actions is tacitly to condone and even encourage them. His actions may not have made his child any safer that day. They may have made her safer the next day .

I ask you the same question as I posed the binary gentleman. What would you suggest he (and his equally unhappy neighbours) should do? That has any chance at all of solving, or even improving the problem.

[jrandom]

I ask you the same question as I posed the binary gentleman. What would you suggest he (and his equally unhappy neighbours) should do?

I'd be interested to hear the local Police take on the matter.

I very much doubt that anything said by this vigilante chap constitutes an objectively accurate and well-balanced picture of the situation.

Certainly not after having been filtered through the Harold's impeccable journalistic standards.

I shall reserve judgment.

[jafar]

As annoying and potentially-dangerous as the boy racers undoubtedly were, this gentleman who drove while disqualified, ran one of them off the road and then dragged him out of his car through the window is a knuckle-dragging moron.

And so is anyone who unthinkingly beats their chest in support of his actions.

I'm a little tired of NZ society's ape-like attitude toward interpersonal violence. Annoyed at someone else's behaviour? Ram their car, hand out a bash, all quite acceptable.

Fuckin' idiots.

Tis indeed a sad day when I have to agree with JRANDOM

IMHO anyone taking the law into their own hands ceases to be a victim & instead becomes the problem.

[nodrog:Me]

So, clearly, although they had departed the area, they would be back. To ignore their actions is tacitly to condone and even encourage them.

you sound like that ginger copper you aucklanders always harp on about

[Sanx]

One of his children was nearly injured and he acted as any father who was more concerned about the safety of his child rather that the legality of his actions.

Ahh, the battle cry of the loony-left and politically-correct.

Won't someone think of the children?!

Are you really advocating vigilante justice, reckless driving, assault and threatening to kill as appropriate behaviour? Bear in mind these actions weren't to prevent the man's daughter almost knocked off (not knocked off, but almost, so nothing actually happened to her) but to enact retribution against the person he considered might have previously been a threat to his daughter's safety.

If he and the other 'concerned neighbours' were actually dealing with a real problem then there is a very simple step they could take to get the boy-racers dealt with; use a video camera and record what was going on. Lay a complaint at the Police station against the drivers and present the video as evidence. Cops love busting boy-racers; presented with clear video evidence, they'd have had the licences removed in no time.

[firefighter]

Tis indeed a sad day when I have to agree with JRANDOM

IMHO anyone taking the law into their own hands ceases to be a victim & instead becomes the problem.

sigh, oh well I guess we should leave all law enforcement to the understaffed police, and do nothing to help our communities and stand up against crimminals.

oh right, and whinge that nothing is being done to stop all the crime happening in right in front of us.

yes he was an idiot for running a car off the road, that was dumb,

dragging the kid out of the car however.....meh, society IS very soft now, if people are that upset about this little cretin getting a fright, whoopty shit, there's a ton of stories from the past of farmers dealing to theives etc, nothing happened but a lesson learnt. yes it's hard to regulate what is and isn't stepping over the line at times, and everyones opinion is different, (so no crucification for having an opinion please 'left wingers'!) I just think that sometimes society acting out against crime is a good thing, as long as it's not necessarily condoned but the actions judged and dealt with accordingly, not just a lynch mob of people defending the pricks who started the trouble in the first place.

[jrandom]

dragging the kid out of the car however.....meh, society IS very soft now

I'm sorry, I still haven't quite worked out how any of this is going to stop any other 'boy racers' from disturbing his street.

Would you really feel safe betting that they'd be intimidated into staying away, as opposed to taking his actions as a challenge that they now need to defy to keep their pride intact?

I'd say it's a coin toss either way, and that's being generous. A feud is, IMHO, the most likely outcome.

Like I said.

The man is a mouth-breathing moron.

[firefighter]

Ahh, the battle cry of the loony-left and politically-correct.

Won't someone think of the children?!

Are you really advocating vigilante justice, reckless driving, assault and threatening to kill as appropriate behaviour? Bear in mind these actions weren't to prevent the man's daughter almost knocked off (not knocked off, but almost, so nothing actually happened to her) but to enact retribution against the person he considered might have previously been a threat to his daughter's safety.

If he and the other 'concerned neighbours' were actually dealing with a real problem then there is a very simple step they could take to get the boy-racers dealt with; use a video camera and record what was going on. Lay a complaint at the Police station against the drivers and present the video as evidence. Cops love busting boy-racers; presented with clear video evidence, they'd have had the licences removed in no time.

Probably a more sensible course of action!

[DMNTD:Me]

I must be a knuckle dragging mofo then...

[firefighter]

I'm sorry, I still haven't quite worked out how any of this is going to stop any other 'boy racers' from disturbing his street.

Would you really feel safe betting that they'd be intimidated into staying away, as opposed to taking his actions as a challenge that they now need to defy to keep their pride intact?

I'd say it's a coin toss either way, and that's being generous. A feud is, IMHO, the most likely outcome.

Like I said.

The man is a mouth-breathing moron.

yeah I wouldn't have taken that action myself-more the pull out the video camera approach as mentioned by sanx, I'd have to agree he's probably made things worse as his mates will probably be around and cause more trouble for them, whether it be damaging property or the same old burnout etc.

BUT something like that did happen to myself as a young teen whilst passenger in a friends car.....we were doing doughnuts behind a football field, the rugby players were practicing and closed the gate on us, smashed a window on his car, even I got a jab in the head, gave us enough of a fright to never come back (nothing over the top just a couple of quick light punches), and you know what, even as a passenger I think I deserved it, we never went back and I don't hold a grudge in any way, oh yeah and we didn't call the police, we knew we deserved it.