Changing the transport act - (address on vehicle rego)

[Gman71]

has anyone actually HAD their bike stolen by someone checking their details at the post office? I doubt it.

while that sounds nice and 'scary' it is crap and simply doesn't happen in any significant numbers to warrant cutting of this information to legitimate users.

If you couldn't get the data, I'd sell you a bike, just come 'round to my place. and give me some money. you can't check that i own it, just trust me that it's mine.

Oh the finance owing, that's not to me, my name is ..um... Bob.

or go and trade your bike in at a dealers. tell him it's your, no, actually, prove it. Oh, you can't? shame he can't check with a central register of "owners'. what now? "pay cash please"- go get finance, I dont want your trade-in.

Go apply for finance for that shiny new bike, oh, they can't verify it's yours? tough shit, no finance. (the sale agreement from the dealer I got was half filled in and looked like my 9 year old made it)- shame they can't verfify you 'own' it.

Correct it is not a 'legal' register of ownership, just the 'registered operator', but it's the best we've got, Just like a drivers license isn't an ID card. (yeah right)

the real problem has been DIRECT MARKETING companies buying lots of random data to then send you advertising for steak knives, and finance etc etc. That is what has created complaints to the Privacy Commissioner. NOT people sneaking into your garage to steal your Nifty50 or Harley.

Anyway, it won't make it to parliamnet with this lame duck Government who is unable to even pass wind, let alone controversial legislation, so it will be left to National to deal with this issue , if at all.

Yes maybe the public channel (ie post shop) could be restricted, but legitimate users- vehicle dealers, vehicle checking services (eg VIR, lemon Check) insurance and finance companies, still need access. personally I like being able to safely and easily check, buy, finance and insure my bike.


jeeez, stop panicing you lot.

[pyrocam]

I just received a response from Hon Harry Duynhoven the Minister of Transport safety.

It looks like it might be changing and from reading this thread should suit everyone. you can supply a name and a rego and they will tell you if they are the registered owner, but you cant submit a rego and get a name and address

The Bill is not passed yet, Land Transport Amendment Bill (No4) had its first reading this month.

The attached correspondence should give a more detailed response.

I am amazed that I got a response. and its actually not a brush off, good stuff Hon H.Duynhoven!

[skidMark]

You have it wrong, the check people can do on your rego only provides the postal address....

get a PO box.

duh...

[skidMark]

You cant register a vehicle to a PO BOX. I have one. your physical address is what comes up.

Wrong.......

You register its physical address to your house....

your postal address to the PO box.

if somebody does a check they get the PO box...

FACT.

[pyrocam]

I called up the LTSA just now and she advised me its physical.

[Hitcher]

I missed this thread when it was originally posted, as I was travelling abroad.

I sense an acute sense of paranoia amongst those who believe that somebody will do a rego check, find the address of the place where a vehicle is stored, and nick off with it. This is particularly manifest on this site, where people even go to great lengths to photoshop over the plates on photos of their bikes that they post. Goodness me, what a waste of time. My bike's rego appears in all of its gory detail on my profile page. If people want to do a Motocheck to find out from that where I live, good on them. The Whitepages(TM) would be quicker, or they could even ask me, if they were that keen to do visit the darkest depths of Ngaio.

If people are that worried about their "privacy" that they are prepared to lie on legal documents to protect their personal whereabouts, then I don't think there is much that any regulator can do to improve that situation.

I have better ideas for things our politicians could do to improve the lot of vehicle owners in general and motorcyclists in particular than wasting Parliament's time making facile changes to existing statutes.

[OutForADuck]

It does happen.. but so does following home the rider etc. Isn't it just another reason to take security seriously and perhaps insurance?

don't change the law... Get a decent ground anchored chain in your garage and a dog!!

[hayd3n]

we located a hit and run person thru this loophole keep it i say

[Gremlin]

we located a hit and run person thru this loophole keep it i say

yeah, person clipped my mothers car in a car park, was scared, and drove off. Witnesses could provide the plate, so we traced using the method, so the jury is out on this for me. He admitted he was scared etc, but is paying each week.

Personally, I register my vehicles to a work address, not home, but you do need to provide a physical address. I know you cannot provide only a PO Box, unsure if you provide a po box and physical, and direct correspondence to the po box, as to which would come up.

[phaedrus]

It does happen.. but so does following home the rider etc. Isn't it just another reason to take security seriously and perhaps insurance?

don't change the law... Get a decent ground anchored chain in your garage and a dog!!

wouldn't it be better if the dog could chase thief?

[Shadows]

I just received a response from Hon Harry Duynhoven the Minister of Transport safety.

It looks like it might be changing and from reading this thread should suit everyone. you can supply a name and a rego and they will tell you if they are the registered owner, but you cant submit a rego and get a name and address

The Bill is not passed yet, Land Transport Amendment Bill (No4) had its first reading this month.

The attached correspondence should give a more detailed response.

I am amazed that I got a response. and its actually not a brush off, good stuff Hon H.Duynhoven!

I told you in post #3.

Geeze, don't you trust me or something?

Harry.

[Shadows]

I sense an acute sense of paranoia amongst those who believe that somebody will do a rego check, find the address of the place where a vehicle is stored, and nick off with it.

Not just paranoia... it wouldn't be the first time it has happened.

[PirateJafa]

don't change the law... Get a decent ground anchored chain in your garage and a dog!!

You might need a scarier dog...

[pyrocam]

ACCESS TO VEHICLE REGISTER TO BE TIGHTENED

IRN-DRIVE-PA-MOTORISTS 153 words

Jun 25th 2009 5:00am


Politics/Politics

Parliament has voted to tighten up access to the motor vehicle register, in changes to transport laws

MPs from across the political spectrum have voted to protect personal information held on the motor vehicle register.

It follows the final reading of the Land Transport Amendment Bill in Parliament last night. General information about the make and model of vehicles will still be available, but access to owners' address details will be restricted.

Taking part in the debate was Labour MP Chris Hipkins, who stressed the current system is open to abuse and needs to be tightened up. He told the House it is unacceptable for an angry motorist to be able to trace a person through the register, after a road rage incident.

National MP David Bennett believes changing the law will ease the concerns of those who feel their privacy has been compromised.

The law change will be in place by Christmas.

Source: Newstalk ZB
Credit: Newstalk ZB

[p.dath]

Don't forget when you request licence details now that a record is made of this. But I would be in favour of the registered vehicles physical address being a restricted field not available for public viewing. If the legislation says it is only required for enforcement purposes, then only those charged with the duty of enforcement need that information to comply with the legislation.