L-Plate Rider
Hey!
We all must agree that one of the best reason for riding a bike is petrol cost, but I'm just real curious!
Just in general, how much would say 250 2stroke burn petrol compared to a 250 4stroke?
Closest thing I've heard is someone said that a 250 2stroke is like burning fuel from a 1000 4stroke! That sounds abit extreme...
But what ya'll think?
Tom =]
Btw! I know it comes down to how much much u red-line n that but generalize =D
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Bollocks! $20 will get you a easy 200ish km of thrashing.
Being a two-stroke you really need to thrash them as a matter of course.
Need to top up the oil every thousand k's or so, but that's not too expensive - and once you consider the 5,000km-ly engine oil changes on four-strokes it actually balances out nicely.
Originally Posted by White trash
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$20 = 10 litres. So you are getting 20km/l even thrashing the thing?? What bike are you referring to?
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I had an RD350YPVS that did 50mpg....and no it was not ridden like a scooter
L-Plate Rider
Mate, i'm lucky to get 50k's from $20. I think you mean 20k if you thrash it. Even my 125 drinks twice that easy. $2.00+ per ltr for fuel & $30ish per ltr for 2stroke oil at a ratio of 30/1. My CBR250 used about a tenth the amount of fuel, maby top's of a sixth but never any more than that. 4stroke 250's use a lot less fuel. I've had plenty of both 2stroke and 4stroke 250's and the result was the same for all.
SOLID,
L-Plate Rider
Hay bud.
I don't know any one that rides 2stroke's becouse of fuel cost's. If you own a 2 stroke then you are not getting any fuel saving's, in fact, your fuel will be pooring out your exghust!!! 2strokes use extra fuel to cool the cylinder's down and so they must be run with a rich fuel mixture and you'll burn spark plug's to if you run it lean. A plug's cost $25.00 each so it works out cheeper to just run rich, and you'll get a better responce to. As far as oil go's, That stuff cost's the earth!!! and you should only use the oil injection, fully synthetic, knowen brand stuff like Castrol TTS/R2 which cost's around $30.00 per ltr or your just creating carbon and gonna destory your engine's life weather you pre-mix or not.
All my 4Stroke 250's where as cheep as chips to run. Back in the day i'dd get from Hamilton to Rotorua for about $5.00 on my CBR250 so if you do the math, thats about $13 today, vs my RGV250 which would cost around $45-50, yip it's thirsty.
ha ha ha, hope this help's a bit mate.
SOLID,
Iron Fist in a Velvet Glove
2 strokes thorw 60% of their fuel out the exhaust .....drink more fuel as the fire twice as often, develop more power. Once you throw in the cost of oil and shorter life of a 2 stroke engine . . . .
Four storke for economy, 2 stroke for power.
On Time .... In Spec .... On Budget .... Yeah Right!
L-Plate Rider
P.S where do you get your $150.00 engine oil from every 5,000kms change. There ripping you off!!!
SOLID,
L-Plate Rider
Cheers DCNZ! and every1 else =]
Thanks exactly the kinda answer i was looking for =P
Ive only ever had a rg150 2stroke, that ripped through petrol, but i thought it coulda been cus of its small engine and of me having to red line it constantly to go on the motorway.
I guess its a 2stroke thing then, i guess you pay the price for that kinda performance! =P
L-Plate Rider
Every 5,000kms I do an oil change, like a 4stroke, But only for the gear box on my 2stroke's. The oil I use is called Spectro Fully Synthetic Gear Oil (should be getting discount's for all these plugs, ah ha ha) and cost's around $50.00 per ltr. I don't see a saving in Engine oil change's at all...
SOLID,
There's no justice... just us
My bro's RGV250 is dead even with my VFR400R in a straight line, but gets on average 130km to 13L, vs. ~210km.
Doesn't play well with others
On a RZ250LC.
You must be a more "substantial" chap than my little 55kg self.
$30 a litre for two-smoke oil? You're getting ripped - it's only ~$40 for three litres of the good Castrol TT Super stuff, and that will last 3,000km.
My four-stroke 250 (A inline-four GSF250) drank the petrol much faster than the RZ does - was only getting 10-12km/L, 15 if I was lucky/on the motorway.
$50 a bottle? I'm not getting ripped on the engine oil, you're getting ripped on your two-smoke oil!
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Likewise. Back in the early 90s I had a derestricted NSR250. If I filled it up in Cashmere and took it to Akaroa (85km) I could get 8 litres of gas into it at Akaroa. Since it only had a 14 litre tank there was no way to make it there and back without refuelling somewhere. My R1 will go there and back on 12 litres.
L-Plate Rider
On a RZ250LC.
You must be a more "substantial" chap than my little 55kg self.
$30 a litre for two-smoke oil? You're getting ripped - it's only ~$40 for three litres of the good Castrol TT Super stuff, and that will last 3,000km.
My four-stroke 250 (A inline-four GSF250) drank the petrol much faster than the RZ does - was only getting 10-12km/L, 15 if I was lucky/on the motorway.
$50 a bottle? I'm not getting ripped on the engine oil, you're getting ripped on your two-smoke oil!
I'm in the Waikato. Can you tell me who sell's the 3ltr bottle's for $40, I've only seen 1ltr or 4ltrs, I've been paying $100 for 4lts of fully synthetic TTS -(Peter Glidden Honda, Road and Sport Hamilton, Boyd Honda, all the moto shops in Morrinsville and everywhere else i've been in the Waikato)-, for 6 year's now. The waikato must be getting rip't, Damn!!!
Road and Sport Hamilton sold me -Spectro Heavy Duty Platinum Full Synthetic GL-1 SAE 75w140 gear box oil- last week for $47.75. No kidding.
Oh, and I only weigh 60kg's but i've been thrashing 2strokes for year's and none of my bike's have ever missed a beat, except for a fould plug or exghust leek once in a blue moon. Just run'em rich and hold'em open.
15ks a ltr sounds good, my GSXR250 was the same. My CBR250 was better thou'
Thanks bud.
SOLID,
L-Plate Rider
Thanks for backing up your word's there JAFFA!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your a legond. Please feel free to tell everyone how to do it when you know all about it...
Pwfffff't, what ever!
SOLID,
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