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    Other option is to look at the cb600... it isn't listed, but I would imagine it should be, given that they list a cb650...

    That list is hilarious... the aprilia sxv550 and husaberg fs650 are on it... They aren't learner bikes by any stretch of the imagination, and often scare experienced riders!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    You will be fine. It doesnt matter a shit anyway - if they dont give it to ya just kit up in all the protective gear so you look ultra-pro and go ride the fucker - they will leave you alone if you behave and you look like money and like you know what you're doing. No one will know or care. If you get stung riding it, tell them some bullshit sob story and get off it anyway - How long since you were stopped for a license check ?

    DB
    Going to pay his fine for riding outside his conditions if he does get stopped if he does not get the exemption....???

    You can get stopped even if you are "behaving, and look the part".

    Bullshit sob stories are not washing these days. Got an exemption carry the letter with you as proof, otherwise ticket coming your way, regardless of whatever lame exuse you come up with....
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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    Stop paniccing dood. Wait for the letter. You will get the exemption for sure.

    They gave me mine for less reason than you have.
    That might be because your pile of Korean shite is already on the list, you drivelling idiot.

    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    You will be fine. It doesnt matter a shit anyway - if they dont give it to ya just kit up in all the protective gear so you look ultra-pro and go ride the fucker...
    Heard of this little thing called 'insurance'?

    It doesn't apply when you're riding outside the conditions of your licence.

    And it becomes a real motherfucker when you bin your baby into the side of a Porsche and realise that you're up for the entire bill.

    $400 fines for riding outside licence conditions pale in comparison.

    Quote Originally Posted by h20boy View Post
    One other thing she said was the bikes on the list are generally between 30-38hp...mines a tad over that
    Mmyes. I wouldn't call the ER6 a learner bike. Leaving it off the list is a sensible course.

    However, that said, I think you were most unfairly shafted vis-a-vis nobody outside LTNZ actually knowing about this list being applied to exemptions when you bought your bike. In your position right now, I'd start a letter-writing campaign to show that:

    (a) The list hadn't been published and people hadn't been notified to any reasonable extent;

    (b) People have previously received GDLS exemptions for bikes not on the list. (I'm not sure whether this is the case, but it'd pay to check.)

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    Wow, what a crappy list... Like being an old piece of shite somehow makes a bike suitable for a learner? And an SM510R? An SVX550? An RVF400???

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    Should have bought in "Indian Stout", it's on the list...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    Mmyes. I wouldn't call the ER6 a learner bike. Leaving it off the list is a sensible course.

    However, that said, I think you were most unfairly shafted vis-a-vis nobody outside LTNZ actually knowing about this list being applied to exemptions when you bought your bike. In your position right now, I'd start a letter-writing campaign to show that:

    (a) The list hadn't been published and people hadn't been notified to any reasonable extent;

    (b) People have previously received GDLS exemptions for bikes not on the list. (I'm not sure whether this is the case, but it'd pay to check.)

    Good luck!
    Oh I will for sure. Im in a holding pattern until I actually recieve the letter saying no, but I intend to spit the dummy if it is a no.

    The whole thing about the exemption is that you are requesting to be excluded from having to comply with a LAW. As such, I think it shouldn't be too easy to obtain and that they should take all reasonable efforts to ensure the applicants reason for an application is legitimate.
    Now having said that, if you are going to allow persons to apply for this exemption, or for anything similar relating to any law, there needs to be a clear cut procedure and guidelines for applicants to follow. How do you choose a bike from a list you don't receive until after you need the exemption?

    Oh, and for the record I won't be riding it if I don't get the exemption. When I was younger I would have, but the older I get the less inclined I am to ignore the consequences. And I have no intention of riding an uninsured $11000 motorcycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by h20boy View Post
    Im in a holding pattern until I actually recieve the letter saying no, but I intend to spit the dummy if it is a no.
    Don't. Talk to them and ask "what can we do then?" If you rant at them they will hold the phone away from their ear and roll their eyes - no exemption. They are a government department.

    Anyways, its early days. Wait for the letter!

    JR, My bike isn't on that list. The listed Hyo 650 there is the RL learner-limited one. Mine is not the limited one. Also, your almost-continuous abusive manner is really disgusting - I really hope I never meet you IRL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    The listed Hyo 650 there is the RL learner-limited one. Mine is not the limited one.
    Did LTNZ figure that out at the time?

    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    Also, your almost-continuous abusive manner is really disgusting - I really hope I never meet you IRL.
    Will you fuck me up, motherfucker?

    That sounds dangerous!



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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    Did LTNZ figure that out at the time?
    Would it matter? Any the hyobags are only suitable for learner fodder

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    Quote Originally Posted by imdying View Post
    the hyobags are only suitable for learner fodder
    Dunno about that. Aren't learner bikes supposed to be reliable?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    Dunno about that. Aren't learner bikes supposed to be reliable?
    Well they've got bouncy enough to make you appreciate your first real bike down pat, so that's something in their favour...

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    Quote Originally Posted by imdying View Post
    bouncy enough to make you appreciate your first real bike
    I'm unconvinced by the 'learner bikes should be piles of shite so that people appreciate real ones later on' argument for the existence of Hyobags.

    Still, I guess there's always gotta be some country out there that reminds us that being small, brown and slanty-eyed doesn't necessarily mean you can build good motorcycles. Viva Korea!
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    I've got an SV650...not fast or anything but not 250 and I note it's not on the list. Been riding for about 10 years, lots of rider training courses completed also...just hadn't sorted out my shit to get it sooner. DIdn't have to supply a pic or evidence of my height weight etc...just laid out my experience, training, gear, ride and riding history.

    My exemption letter arrived in the mail today...condition = must sit and pass full license test by September 21. I can do that good experience with the team concerned - happy wee girl here today.

    Good luck with yours and don't fret till you know either way.

    AND In my usual shit stirring fashion, I would say in reference to your comment about why they don't supply you with the list of bikes able to get exemption for...suck it up...it's up to us to do our own homework on the system when applying to be excused from it.

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    yup await for letter , shouldn't freak out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin View Post
    That list is hilarious... the aprilia sxv550 and husaberg fs650 are on it... They aren't learner bikes by any stretch of the imagination, and often scare experienced riders!!
    That is because in Aussie these bikes come fitted with factory restrictors i think the SXV goes from being 70hp to around the 50hp mark in order to comply with the LAM's rules.
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