Oh, no, I crashed - and apparently I am at fault...?

**Katman** · 28th August 2008, 20:25

Originally Posted by Nagash

Err, i've never received a braking test either, just told to ride the bike forwards and then stop using each brake individually.. I assume just to test the brakes actually work.

The 'brake test' is carried out during the road test (which is an integral part of the inspection) performed by the WOF inspector.

**Str8 Jacket** · 28th August 2008, 20:25

Originally Posted by Nagash

He fucked up, it happens. And he has a bill to pay ontop of it. No one gets the message straight away, that's why people always post after they've had time to reflect on what's happened and can actually see what happened.

YEah, you're right. I fuck up all the time. Its usually always my fault. Whenever I post about my crashes I usually get mocked...... Go figure?!

BTW, sorry if I offended you. I was being sarcastic, *really*!

**FJRider** · 28th August 2008, 20:28

Originally Posted by niero

OK... thanks for that comment. Do you go on 100km/h areas? I bet you do and since you are (I asume, (NOT taking the piss)) a safe rider, and that same child ran in front of you, would you be able to stop mate? I bet your motorbike is good, but I bet you will not be able to do anything either. So would you be asking this same question if that same child ran infront of you? Would you blame yourself for riding 100 km/h in a 100 km/h area and not being able to get out of the way in time? I would really like to see you outbreak that car mate, I really do. Blaming me for the crash is one thing and I'm ok with that but putting child into this scene and compearing me on the same level to a drunk teenager in his overtuned car traveling 3 times the speed limit not caring about anything and tailgating is damn an other.

Kids, sheep, and dogs, cause more "offs" than other vehicles do. Usually under the label of "rider error".
Very experienced riders are more scared of sheep, than Mack Trucks.

**niero** · 28th August 2008, 20:29

Originally Posted by Headbanger

Should have given up while you were ahead.

Now you should at least learn from the incident so you don't repeat it. I could stop a truck in the amount of space your talking about.

Should have given up while you were ahead. --- ?!?! Given up on braking?

About the truck... I dont know, every person is entiteled to his/her opinion. I have given my side of the story... And yes, what ever I make of it is just as importaint as everyone else makes of this, thats why I am currently suffrening through this. Someone here may in a result travel further from that cager in front of him/her and dont end up doing what I have done... What I am trying to say is that,

2 SECOND RULE ON A MOTORBIKE IS NOT ENOUGH,

be careful and learn from my mistakes

good riding everyone

**Nagash** · 28th August 2008, 20:30

And the world goes on..

**XP@** · 28th August 2008, 20:32

... unless you can prove the guy in front was driving carelessly / dangerously.

in which case you may stand a chance... ask hitcher, he plowed up the arse of a car and the car driver was prosecuted... however the rav 4 driver did put it in to reverse when overtaking...

**Jerry74** · 28th August 2008, 20:32

Bugger oops... hope youhave some joy in sourcing parts and getting off

**MIZXR** · 28th August 2008, 20:33

There can be exceptions to the following to close rule but generally you will be at fault. - unless you can prove he did something wrong.

for anyone who dosn't believe me try slamming your brakes on in front of another car when driving.

**dipshit** · 28th August 2008, 20:34

Originally Posted by Ixion

Goodness me. Either urgently get your bike to a qualified repairer for urgent attention to its (apparently severely defective) brakes: or get yourself urgently to a RRRS course or similar.

niero is probably just talking shit. More than likely he was caning it away from the lights to keep up with his boy-racer mate in the WRX.

**TimeOut** · 28th August 2008, 20:36

Originally Posted by Mikkel

If he braked to turn right he would have had to start indicating at least 3 seconds prior to performing the turn. Otherwise he is not observing the roadcode.

It's actually 3 seconds before slowing to turn.

Had the same happen a few years back towing a horse float, an old dear passed us going up a hill then to sit at 70km/h for 20km. When a truck indicated to turn right (but still moving) she stoped dead in the middle of the road (we conected) Cop said there was fault on both sides so no charges and each repair own vechicles.

If he didn't indicate at least 3 seconds before slowing I think there's shared blame.

**FJRider** · 28th August 2008, 20:38

Originally Posted by niero

The 2 second rule asumes that you have the same braking power as the car in front of you.

The "two second rule" is a guidline, not a defined law, that must be obeyed.
Half the clear distance of roadway ahead IS...

**Motu** · 28th August 2008, 20:39

Originally Posted by Headbanger

Right, You lead by example then, Don't ever travel at a speed where you wouldn't be able to stop for an object appearing immediately in front of you.

Good work,I'm happy to see you have finally figured it out.

**niero** · 28th August 2008, 20:44

Originally Posted by FJRider

The "two second rule" is a guidline, not a defined law, that must be obeyed.
Half the clear distance of roadway ahead IS...

Yes, but... I bet that people are more likely to use the two second rule rather than the distance LAW because its easier and more practical. Thats all.