Slow down in safe road works areas?

[Drum]

What a huge inconvenience having to slow to 80 km/h. That's another 30 seconds late you arrive at your destination.

[FJRider]

The speed limit is exactly that - A speed limit. If you go over the limit, you face the fines. Some lucky cop's gonna be getting a payrise if he sat in a roadworks area and clocked each vehicle exceeding the posted speed limit.

sadly the law enforcers dont get paid on commision... if they were... you think the revenue gathering is bad now

[FJRider]

All of you people that agree with the 80kph speed limit just need to go and drive through the section of road in question...
Completely agree with reducing the speed in actual roadworks.

Its a free country...go as fast as you like... any where you like. Enjoy your walking.

[trustme]

Its a free country...go as fast as you like... any where you like. Enjoy your walking.

And won't they snivel & moan , just don't do it in ear shot of me.
Why do people think the road rules apply to everyone but them.
I speed , I break the rules , I take the risk, I cop the fine if I'm caught.
Do the crime, do the time

[Slyer]

Fair enough. My point is that it shouldn't be a crime.
I agree with the 80kph limit on the bridge by the way, it's the unjustifiable "Temporary" ones that annoy me.

[Jantar]

http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/roads/traffi...te-15-rev1.pdf

Shows the requirements for temporary speed limits. However an LTSA survey showed that:

· Only 66% of RCAs used some form of guideline or specification for
setting temporary speed limits.
· 28% of RCAs used only 30 km/h temporary speed limits.
· 41% of RCAs kept no documentation of temporary speed limits.
· Of the sites surveyed with a temporary speed limit, 100% of the sites in
an underlying 50 km/h area and 77% of sites in an underlying 100 km/h
area were sign posted at 30 km/h.
· The temporary speed limit value was appropriate at 79% of sites
surveyed.
· 20% of sites surveyed had no speed limit displayed at the end of the work
site.
· At 92% of sites surveyed some speed limit signs were not placed on the
left side of the carriageway for either direction of traffic.
· At 12% of sites surveyed with an underlying 100 km/h speed limit a buffer
speed limit was present.

So, if you get a ticket for eceeding a tempory speed limit, and decide to fight it, there is a very good chance that the TSL didn't meet the requirements.

Take the risk if you dare.

[FJRider]

So, if you get a ticket for eceeding a tempory speed limit, and decide to fight it, there is a very good chance that the TSL didn't meet the requirements.

Take the risk if you dare.

Whats the bet ...... some will....watch this space...

[R6_kid:Me]

What pisses me off is the speed limit signs heading west on the new motorway between constellation drive and west auckland.

As Constellation goes from two lanes (at 80kmh) to one lane, you have to slow to 70kmh (temporary speed signs), then 500m later you can go back to two lanes at 70kmh, then another few hundred you go back 80kmh, then another 200m and you can do 100kmh as the 'motorway begins'... Why have the 80kmh signs within 200m of a higher speed zone on a motorway, if im accelerating from 70kmh then surely i dont need to stop at 80kmh before continuing to 100kmh in a matter of seconds.

It used to be 80kmh all the way through before the motorway went in and the road works have been gone since earlier last year when it went from chip seal to asphalt. It would seem that the contractors have simply been too lazy to remove them.

The 'temporary speed' signs have been there nearly a year now, and serve no purpose what so ever. More to the point there are four signs (2x 70kmh, 2x 80km) that are completely pointless, and are basically just waste of taxpayer money.

[xwhatsit]

While we're on the subject of bizarre and unusual roadwork speed limits, how about the one on Mangere Bridge? They've been fiddling with the offramp for months now, and it's been at 100kph the whole time (although the actual offramp is 50kph, that's fine).

What is silly, is that they've been raising pylons off the side of the bridge (i.e., in the ocean!). Now they've dropped the speed limit to 80kph by the side of the pylon. Wtf are they worried about? Cars flying off, over the side of the guide rail, across 10-20 metres of ocean and hitting the workers on the pylon? It'd be a damned good shot (and Youtube video) if they did!

[swbarnett]

And I'll say it again... ignore the warning signs and speed restrictions at your peril...

I agree. I'm just saying that the prevalence of signs that have no work to back them up mean that more people are going to ignore them.

[swbarnett]

When workers are on site ... the giveaway of workers on site, is big machines with flashing lights, people in bright daygo clothing, and students holding stop/go signs... which ...incidently...are legal and proper stop signs. Even if you think the way is clear for you to go through and the stop sign is still up.

Not sure what your point is here. I agree with everything your saying. The problem comes when there is no visibility of the road works when a driver sees the first sign and just keep going and suddenly find themselves too fast for the works when they do appear. This behaviour, I agree, is at best unwise but it is more likely when drivers have been previously bombarded with signs that effectively mean nothing.

[musicman]

A few weeks ago at 10am on a Sunday morning I got on the motorway from Onewa Road and drove north (in the car). I was in the middle lane and there was a cop in the right lane a bit behind me, I stayed at around 105km/h and the cop was about the same. When we got to the temporary 80km/h sign before the Northcote Road offramp I started slowing down but the cop car showed no signs of slowing down at all, so after it passed me I sped up back to just under 100km/h, but the cop car was still pulling away from me. I don't think the cop slowed down at all through the whole 80km/h zone, by the time I passed the 80km/h temporary zone after the Tristram Ave on/offramp the cop car was almost out of sight. It seems even they don't obey the temporary speed signs?

[Slyer]

Yes! I've seen that too.

[nodrog:Me]

about 2 years ago, at least 15 people had their speeding tickets dropped after the local northland cop handed out tickets to people speeding through temporary 30kph roadwork signs on SH1 on a weekend when nobody was on site actually working on the road. all because some bright spark contested his ticket in court on the grounds that the temporary speed restriction should only apply to the hours when the actual roadworks were happening, the judge agreed.

[more_fasterer]

While I can see there is a distinct lack of shoulder available through there, a fair reason to drive/ride with caution agreed, the friggen traffic hardly ever in my experience reaches anything like 100kmph in normal circumstances, it is a congested bit of motorway

I ride to and from work every day on this stretch of road, even at rush hour the traffic still picks up from 70-80 on the downhill of the bridge to 95+ by stafford rd (where the speed limit used to increase to 100). Before coming to a screaming halt after takapuna, conveniently right where I exit stage left

The more there are signs and then no works the more people will ignore signs when there are works. I'll say it again, this is just a case of "cry wolf".

From what I've seen, it appears that there is a large cross-section of the daily commuting populace that are doing exactly that, ignoring the (in this case) irrelevant speed limit.