Accident cause - discussion

**FJRider** · 31st August 2008, 11:20

Originally Posted by McJim

Talking about stock truck effluent and diesel on corners some mad drifters have been carving up the Catlins. I was coming home from Scumdog's hoose today and every right hander had a scattering of gravel pushed out from the oncoming lane. Some hoon going from Papatowai to Owaka must have been cutting every corner and spreading death traps on the road.

According to Katman I'm so inexperienced and fast that I should have died about 20 times....I wonder what went wrong?

Truck and trailer units can do that. Blind corners they can't take wide. Because they can't see whats coming.

**FJRider** · 31st August 2008, 11:27

Originally Posted by McJim

See? Katman would simply look at the crash scene and say "Let him die" and wouldn't even warn oncoming traffic that there was an accident ahead. Good onya bro' that will reduce the number of fuckwits on the road and make you happy!

Go ---sell ya bike----you know you want to......

Perhaps if we see a wire wheeled katana in the ditch...we may be tempted to keep on going, and leave him have his own adventure...

**McDuck** · 31st August 2008, 11:46

Originally Posted by FJRider

Perhaps if we see a wire wheeled katana in the ditch...we may be tempted to keep on going, and leave him have his own adventure...

Having ridden that road....

and survived.......

that road (when i rode it and in the mindspace i rode it)) that road is not a race track. Infact there was no real way you could safly go 'fast' on that road. Have fun yes, briskly yes, fast no.

**FJRider** · 31st August 2008, 11:56

Anybody remember the Hiscock brothers who raced for Wellington Suzuki (I think), They used it for "practice" (mid/early 80's)

**Katman** · 31st August 2008, 14:13

Those of you who like to rub each others backs and go "there, there" when someone has an accident through over exuberanance and out-riding their ability are perpetuating the belief that it's quite okay to reward irresponsible behaviour with sympathy.

I don't do sympathy unless it's warranted.

**FJRider** · 31st August 2008, 15:48

Originally Posted by Katman

I don't do sympathy unless it's warranted.

who cares ... have a nice day...

**MSTRS:Me** · 31st August 2008, 16:18

Well, here we all are again.
Isn't it nice to know that, in this ever-changing world, there is one thing we can rely on to be a constant? Well, two actually.
Physics can be a bitch, and KM will always be there to tell us it's always our fault.

**Donor** · 31st August 2008, 16:25

Originally Posted by MSTRS

Physics can be a bitch, and KM will always be there to tell us it's always our fault.

I'm no Katman fan.

But pray tell, whose fault WAS this accident then?

I'm starting to think Katman is on to something here...

...clearly I need another beer...

**justsomeguy** · 31st August 2008, 16:26

Originally Posted by Katman

Those of you who like to rub each others backs and go "there, there" when someone has an accident through over exuberanance and out-riding their ability are perpetuating the belief that it's quite okay to reward irresponsible behaviour with sympathy.

I don't do sympathy unless it's warranted.

Course you don't, you just like to increase your post count, type crap that doesn't say anything and be negative. Must be sad to be so miserable all the time.

Having ridden the Taka's I feel sorry for the poor fella, they are a lovely road, just soo dangerous with the wind and crap on the road.

**Mom** · 31st August 2008, 16:31

Originally Posted by justsomeguy

Course you don't, you just like to increase your post count, type crap that doesn't say anything and be negative. Must be sad to be so miserable all the time.

Having ridden the Taka's I feel sorry for the poor fella, they are a lovely road, just soo dangerous with the wind and crap on the road.

Come on

you are missing the message here, weather conditions, particularly wind shear and road surface have nothing at all to do with coming off, it is all attitude

Gospel according to Katman.

**dipshit** · 31st August 2008, 16:38

Originally Posted by FJRider

experienced does not mean blameless. experienced riders are aware of road conditions. if they miss things they could have seen... whose fault is it.

Exactly. This thread is another perfect example of Katman's tag line.

**dipshit** · 31st August 2008, 16:41

Originally Posted by Mom

weather conditions, particularly wind shear and road surface have nothing at all to do with coming off, it is all attitude

Gospel according to Katman.

Well your attitude you take towards these variables and unknowns that could be just around the next corner does actually matter a lot.

**Owl** · 31st August 2008, 16:50

Originally Posted by Katman

I don't do sympathy unless it's warranted.

It's a pity the same can't be said about sarcasm, eh Katman

**yungatart** · 31st August 2008, 16:51

Originally Posted by dipshit

Well your attitude you take towards these variables and unknowns that could be just around the next corner does actually matter a lot.

No kidding!
And you think (like Katman) that most of us don't know that already....pillars of enlightenment, you two are....one could even go so far as to say you are clones...